New magic item Type: Khyber Rod [Archive] - Wizards Community

New magic item Type: Khyber Rod [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Dragom
07-26-07, 12:56 AM So a Khyber shard can be used to bind the soul of an outsider with in it right?

Like an Elemental. But are they really all that impressive as a bindable creature?

Now if one bound an Imp into a shard. It has a small host of spell-like abilities that would be handy to have.

Now if the stone where bound into a Rod. And the abilities granted to the wielder.

Of course the Self Only abilities would effect the Rod specifically.

And so:
At Will:
Detect magic
Detect good

1/day
Sugestion

+10 bonus to conceal.

1000gp roughly, right?
Vharuck
07-26-07, 01:03 AM Before I even bother to reverse eingineer your estimated price, may I ask you to what item you compared it or the formulae used?
JulesCARV
07-26-07, 01:24 AM Suggestion 1/day is worth about 2880 gp all by itself, assuming standard pricing rules. (360 * 2 * 4)
Dragom
07-26-07, 03:54 PM Your right

7380 = 1/2 price for an eternal wand of suggestion CL 6, +460x2 for an eternal wand of each of the lesser abilities (round down the unlimited to 2 becuase of practicallity)

8,300gp for the Khyber Rod (Imp)

More believable?

And my brain gliched and I mistook Suggestion for a 1st level Spell.
Dragom
07-26-07, 04:23 PM Khyber Rod(Earth Mephit)

4920gp Soften Earth and Stone /2 Eternal wand of same
820gp for the Breath Weapon (As a secondary ability and one that isn't that useful, underguessing it's value is important, Treated as a 1st level Spell with 1st level caster(non-scalable))

(free) Once per Hour can be enlarged as a swift action and used as a Masterwork Mace for 6 rounds.

5,740gp total.

Compair to a 7th level wand of Magic Missle, It's possibly a little high...

But throw in a "Has to be a Caster" restriction, a far looser restriction then the items it compairs to and I think it works.

Like a Staff and like an eternal Wand. But with low low prices for lower level characters.

And using the bound creature's Charisma and effective caster level.
Dragom
07-26-07, 10:32 PM Khyber Rod (Dretch)

1/day
Scare
Stinking Cloud

3780gp

Little low due to the caster level. Maybe a round up to 4000gp?

Khyber Rod (Lantern Archon)

Unlimited
Aid
Detect Evil

Light Ray: range 30 1d6 damage overcomes DR

Rod shines as torch on command

11070gp Could be low actually...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Dragom 07-26-07, 12:56 AM	So a Khyber shard can be used to bind the soul of an outsider with in it right? Like an Elemental. But are they really all that impressive as a bindable creature? Now if one bound an Imp into a shard. It has a small host of spell-like abilities that would be handy to have. Now if the stone where bound into a Rod. And the abilities granted to the wielder. Of course the Self Only abilities would effect the Rod specifically. And so: At Will: Detect magic Detect good 1/day Sugestion +10 bonus to conceal. 1000gp roughly, right?
Vharuck 07-26-07, 01:03 AM	Before I even bother to reverse eingineer your estimated price, may I ask you to what item you compared it or the formulae used?
JulesCARV 07-26-07, 01:24 AM	Suggestion 1/day is worth about 2880 gp all by itself, assuming standard pricing rules. (360 * 2 * 4)
Dragom 07-26-07, 03:54 PM	Your right 7380 = 1/2 price for an eternal wand of suggestion CL 6, +460x2 for an eternal wand of each of the lesser abilities (round down the unlimited to 2 becuase of practicallity) 8,300gp for the Khyber Rod (Imp) More believable? And my brain gliched and I mistook Suggestion for a 1st level Spell.
Dragom 07-26-07, 04:23 PM	Khyber Rod(Earth Mephit) 4920gp Soften Earth and Stone /2 Eternal wand of same 820gp for the Breath Weapon (As a secondary ability and one that isn't that useful, underguessing it's value is important, Treated as a 1st level Spell with 1st level caster(non-scalable)) (free) Once per Hour can be enlarged as a swift action and used as a Masterwork Mace for 6 rounds. 5,740gp total. Compair to a 7th level wand of Magic Missle, It's possibly a little high... But throw in a "Has to be a Caster" restriction, a far looser restriction then the items it compairs to and I think it works. Like a Staff and like an eternal Wand. But with low low prices for lower level characters. And using the bound creature's Charisma and effective caster level.
Dragom 07-26-07, 10:32 PM	Khyber Rod (Dretch) 1/day Scare Stinking Cloud 3780gp Little low due to the caster level. Maybe a round up to 4000gp? Khyber Rod (Lantern Archon) Unlimited Aid Detect Evil Light Ray: range 30 1d6 damage overcomes DR Rod shines as torch on command 11070gp Could be low actually...