Eberron and demographicks [Archive] - Wizards Community

Eberron and demographicks [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
skrap-san
12-19-07, 08:14 PM I know about Jhonen Olain's webpage (http://www.coveworld.net/eberron/index2.html) and his demographics calculator (http://www.coveworld.net/eberron/demographics.html) that most likely is based on this (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20040712a) dragonshard.

But is there one out there that calculates with the classes from other sourcebooks like the complete series PHB2 Tome of battel etc? I have tried to look around a bit on the forums, but so far nothing.
OctaviusIII
12-22-07, 03:37 AM There are so many base classes I'd be surprised to find that sort of thing. However, if you feel up for some work, I'd suggest splitting off small bits of each of the classes listed in the dragonshard for similar alternative base classes.
skrap-san
12-22-07, 05:01 AM Yeah it seems like that is the only solution, only question then is how many and so on.

*Sigh* this is what makes me look forward to 4th edition. Only core classes to keep track of once more...

Ah well... good thing i got a vacation right now.
Cloud Divider
01-12-08, 09:57 AM Yeah it seems like that is the only solution, only question then is how many and so on.
Probably the best way to look at it is to treat the alternative classes and Prestige Classes in a similar fashion. Basically figure something on the order of 5-10% of a given character class-group (e.g. Fighter) are either nonstandard variant classes (e.g. Scout), or have a Prestige Class (e.g. Kensai/Weapon Master). If you're feeling generous, maybe 10% of each.

In a small area, unusual circumstances notwithstanding, you're probably not going to find any nonstandard classes. An unusual circumstance might be something like a "closed town" supporting a Cannith research facility (inspired by the Russian equivalents in the 70s and 80's...entire towns populated by nuclear physicists, mathematicians, and their families). Or Stormreach.

In a big place like Sharn, you'll likely have more than enough to have a couple of folks with unusual backgrounds... Using Jhonen's randomizer, a metropolis of 275,000 ended up with a little over 100 Fighters. I could easily see that getting divided up...maybe 50 straight Fighters, 20 multi-classed Fighters, 20 Exotic Fighters (a couple Swashbucklers, a couple Scouts, etc), and another 10 PrC Fighters.

In the end, I guess it boils down to how common you think the nonstandard Base Classes and Prestige Classes are. A capital city probably has more diplomat and spy-types around, for instance.
skrap-san
01-12-08, 07:20 PM In the end, I guess it boils down to how common you think the nonstandard Base Classes and Prestige Classes are. A capital city probably has more diplomat and spy-types around, for instance.

Agreed, another problem is, what non standard and prestige classes are you going to say actually exists in your game?

And thanks for the feedback.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
skrap-san 12-19-07, 08:14 PM	I know about Jhonen Olain's webpage (http://www.coveworld.net/eberron/index2.html) and his demographics calculator (http://www.coveworld.net/eberron/demographics.html) that most likely is based on this (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20040712a) dragonshard. But is there one out there that calculates with the classes from other sourcebooks like the complete series PHB2 Tome of battel etc? I have tried to look around a bit on the forums, but so far nothing.
OctaviusIII 12-22-07, 03:37 AM	There are so many base classes I'd be surprised to find that sort of thing. However, if you feel up for some work, I'd suggest splitting off small bits of each of the classes listed in the dragonshard for similar alternative base classes.
skrap-san 12-22-07, 05:01 AM	Yeah it seems like that is the only solution, only question then is how many and so on. Sigh this is what makes me look forward to 4th edition. Only core classes to keep track of once more... Ah well... good thing i got a vacation right now.
Cloud Divider 01-12-08, 09:57 AM	Yeah it seems like that is the only solution, only question then is how many and so on. Probably the best way to look at it is to treat the alternative classes and Prestige Classes in a similar fashion. Basically figure something on the order of 5-10% of a given character class-group (e.g. Fighter) are either nonstandard variant classes (e.g. Scout), or have a Prestige Class (e.g. Kensai/Weapon Master). If you're feeling generous, maybe 10% of each. In a small area, unusual circumstances notwithstanding, you're probably not going to find any nonstandard classes. An unusual circumstance might be something like a "closed town" supporting a Cannith research facility (inspired by the Russian equivalents in the 70s and 80's...entire towns populated by nuclear physicists, mathematicians, and their families). Or Stormreach. In a big place like Sharn, you'll likely have more than enough to have a couple of folks with unusual backgrounds... Using Jhonen's randomizer, a metropolis of 275,000 ended up with a little over 100 Fighters. I could easily see that getting divided up...maybe 50 straight Fighters, 20 multi-classed Fighters, 20 Exotic Fighters (a couple Swashbucklers, a couple Scouts, etc), and another 10 PrC Fighters. In the end, I guess it boils down to how common you think the nonstandard Base Classes and Prestige Classes are. A capital city probably has more diplomat and spy-types around, for instance.
skrap-san 01-12-08, 07:20 PM	In the end, I guess it boils down to how common you think the nonstandard Base Classes and Prestige Classes are. A capital city probably has more diplomat and spy-types around, for instance. Agreed, another problem is, what non standard and prestige classes are you going to say actually exists in your game? And thanks for the feedback.