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Splendide 03-13-07, 12:48 AM	What if he's not trying to overthrow the nations of Khorvaire? Everywhere else on the continent, there are ancient protections in place, but with the mourning, you'd think the Mournland would be the #1 place for planar invasions and such to occur. Lots of terrain torn up, and if something is trying to break through a seal, who is there to stop it? What if, as the only civilised and sentient species that can reasonably survive the Mournland, the Lord of Blades and his followers are currently fighting off a planar invasion as potential dangerous as any the Gatekeepers have faced in the past. There's a good spin to use against a party trying to take down the LoB.
Yakman 03-13-07, 02:22 PM	the LoB is such a cool character, isn't he?
AntiSean 03-13-07, 03:37 PM	That is friggin' brilliant! Now I just can't decide if it'd be a Daelkyr or Rakshasa Rajah that the LoBster is valiantly trying to hold off...
skakid80 03-13-07, 04:21 PM	That is friggin' brilliant! Now I just can't decide if it'd be a Daelkyr or Rakshasa Rajah that the LoBster is valiantly trying to hold off... Or the ever popular Quori Invasion?
InfinityStar8 03-13-07, 04:46 PM	Or the ever popular Quori Invasion? Why not some 'new' evil. Maybe the Comming God (Creation God) that the other Warforged are trying to build? Maybe they are building a 'body' that is really a gateway for the evil to come through. On a side note, that could be a reason for the Morning itself, just a reason to make sure no one would be around to build a thing to release all the horrors of the planes!
Zombomaniac 03-13-07, 09:13 PM	Why not some 'new' evil. Maybe the Comming God (Creation God) that the other Warforged are trying to build? Maybe they are building a 'body' that is really a gateway for the evil to come through. On a side note, that could be a reason for the Morning itself, just a reason to make sure no one would be around to build a thing to release all the horrors of the planes! Its the Becomming God. But I do like the idea. though I normally avoid puttng a real reason to why the Mourning happenned.
Lancer2010 03-13-07, 10:46 PM	Hmm, but how do we manage to spin this to explain his hatred of all mortal beings? Fighting this shadow war has driven him insane? A little to close to the glowing chasm has rendered him with a dementia? And the final question, what's he going to do afterwards if he wins?
Faithful_One 03-13-07, 11:06 PM	Mabye the reason for his hatred of fleshies is the same as it's always been? He just has a bigger problem with the whole conquering/destroying planar thing. LoBster can't rule the world is someone else is/destroied it after all.
goblin_pride 03-14-07, 02:01 AM	Hmm, but how do we manage to spin this to explain his hatred of all mortal beings? Simple, it' just a rumor, there's no truth to it at all. It's explained as hatred for all fleshies because he seems to shun flesh creatures in his never-ending conflict with whatever horror he's fighting. You could even stick a Gatekeeper druid among his followers to aid him in his planar defenses, but I would make the druid a warforged as well, just to confuse your players.
InfinityStar8 03-14-07, 02:09 AM	Maybe he hatred for all living things is because most of the first living things he ran into in the Mornland were trying to open up great planer gates or release evils from old? So now he just sees all living things as corrupt agents of evil looking to free there masters?
Lancer2010 03-14-07, 10:35 AM	Hmm, I think I shall aim my DM at this thread. It is very interesting.
Ryoden_Anariavas 03-14-07, 10:53 AM	I suppose that his armorspikes and two bladed sword with Bane Humanoid(Human) are going to be ignored then? I wouldnt bother changing the LoB just make him another threat to the PCs as they are trying to stop the mournland invasion from happening. LoBster is one of the only bad guys that the setting has actualy given some good background and stats for and I for one feel reluctant to change him. Who the LoB was before he became the LoB is entirely up to you though.
Zombomaniac 03-14-07, 11:16 AM	I suppose that his armorspikes and two bladed sword with Bane Humanoid(Human) are going to be ignored then? I wouldnt bother changing the LoB just make him another threat to the PCs as they are trying to stop the mournland invasion from happening. LoBster is one of the only bad guys that the setting has actualy given some good background and stats for and I for one feel reluctant to change him. Who the LoB was before he became the LoB is entirely up to you though. Well I won't change him from being a villian (so the Bane Humanoid(Human) stuff stays) but I would say that he is just to busy to mess with all the fleshies at the moment.
Splendide 03-14-07, 06:58 PM	I suppose that his armorspikes and two bladed sword with Bane Humanoid(Human) are going to be ignored then?Absolutely, because the Lord of Blades is probably a myth anyway. Says so in the ECS.
Bluebrush 03-14-07, 07:41 PM	And of course there's always the possibility that there's more than one Lord of Blades in the Mournland. One is the Iron Fisted ruler of a cult out to eradicate or enslave the other races. One is an Iron-Willed defender of planar boundries. The warrior-lord of a band of warforged druids who have developed traditions paralelling those of the Gatekeepers. One is the master Ironheart. The true immortal heir and exemplar of the ancient Dhakanni warblade art of combat. And the last is an Ironmonger. She likes to make modern art out of old abandoned weapons, tools and railings. All of them are sick of being badgered by looters, cultists and inquisitives who mistake them for the other Lords, and swear they were the first to come up with the name.
Lancer2010 03-14-07, 10:06 PM	Whoah... the idea of TWO LoBsters... One could actually be Bulwark... The other... some evil, evil 'forged. I like.
Bluebrush 03-14-07, 10:41 PM	It's something Keith suggested a while back as well as a way to allow alternative designs for the LOB and to allow them to confront him at an earlier stage. The possibility that there's more than one warforged using the name and they each attract followers who are ignorant of the others. (Baker also mentioned an early LOB design had six arms with an armblade on each arm. You could say he was well armed.)
goblin_pride 03-15-07, 12:52 AM	Whoah... the idea of TWO LoBsters... I counted four in Bluebrush's post. I like it, making the lord of blades not one, but mutiple leaders in the Mournlands. But what if two or more are working together to a common goal and sharing the same name. A conspiracy with multiple leaders operating independant of each other and using the rumor of the Lord of Blades to hide their own identities? Perhaps the Lord of Blades never did really exist, but the rumors of him were spread far and wide so that the poor, dumb fleshies would be too scared to come snooping around in the Mournlands.
Hufish 03-23-07, 12:15 AM	This is a small thing, but still something to think about. Every depiction I've seen of the LoBster is wielding a two-bladed sword...but as far as the LoB as religion goes, his preferred weapon is a greatsword. So there's a difference there, possibly indicating multiple 'Lords'.
ArcTan 03-23-07, 12:20 AM	Whoah... the idea of TWO LoBsters... One could actually be Bulwark... The other... some evil, evil 'forged. I like. The other is probably Aaren d'Cannith as a Renegade Mastermaker.
ArcTan 03-23-07, 12:22 AM	The Lord of Blades and the Dreaming Dark have always seemed like natural enemies to me. One is the foremost manipulator of the world trying to ensure a tyrannical law and order -- the other is a maniacal terrorist who's the world's single leading source of fear and chaos. One pervades the human civilizations of the world -- the other lives outside the borders of civilization in a wasteland full of nightmares. One fights for enslavement of all beings to a higher reality of spirits -- the other fights for the freedom of a race not even acknowledged as beings. One moves and works in the spaces between wakefulness, in the quiet of dreams -- the other never dreams and is eternally awake. One is a thousand faceless entities who use dark, sinister magics of the mind in preference to violence -- the other is a widely recognizable, terrifying monster who is the world's foremost symbol of brute physical strength. This was the opposition I used in my last Eberron campaign -- with, I think, some success.
Kemmotar_veon 03-23-07, 06:15 AM	and what if he/they doesn't hate the weak flesh at all??? what if he/they wanted to scare the people out of the mournland so they will not get involved in the war??? he/they coulld be trying to not involve anyone... is a war that the warforged must fight on their own... maybe because they are inmune to some special ability of the enemy... or simply because they doesn't want to involve Korvahire in the war against the planar invasors... they could perfectly create a "LORD OF BLADES" who would kill every weak flesh that tries to get into the war... and thus create fear in the people outside the Mournland... also the "lord of blades" could easily be the LORDS OF BLADES a secret society of warforgeds trying to protect the people of something they don't know and doesn't want to know... that could explain the "Human bane" weapon... and all the other thingies... the lords of blades created those stories to keep everything hidden...
Ront Iron-Roar 03-26-07, 08:42 AM	I always viewed the Lord of Blades as Doctor Doom. Multiple copies of himself with the same intellect between them. Now I like the idea of what he is fighting is the Dreaming Dark. The Quori continuous harassing and pestering him with messengers trying to sway him to join thier side. They tell him that the Warforged are Dal Quor's children upon the Material plane and that his kind are the key to creating a new paradise. The Lord of Blade obviously refuses and now he's under Assault by a bunch of Dreaming Dark loyal Warforged Pyrokineticists and Cryokineticists who are more or less walking artillary. Heck maybe even have the Lord of Blades working with the Dreaming Dark. He's trying to prepare the world for his Quori masters. Be kick ass for the PCs to come into thier first encounter with the LoB swinging his sword out and shouting. "I will show you the greatest Nightmare!" Cookie to whoever gets that easy quote.
Kemmotar_veon 03-26-07, 10:19 AM	newbies to eberron tips... when you fight the dreaming dark ths A55 kicking phrase might not be "I'm your worst nightmare"
Lancer2010 03-26-07, 03:13 PM	I always viewed the Lord of Blades as Doctor Doom. Multiple copies of himself with the same intellect between them. Now I like the idea of what he is fighting is the Dreaming Dark. The Quori continuous harassing and pestering him with messengers trying to sway him to join thier side. They tell him that the Warforged are Dal Quor's children upon the Material plane and that his kind are the key to creating a new paradise. The Lord of Blade obviously refuses and now he's under Assault by a bunch of Dreaming Dark loyal Warforged Pyrokineticists and Cryokineticists who are more or less walking artillary. Heck maybe even have the Lord of Blades working with the Dreaming Dark. He's trying to prepare the world for his Quori masters. Be kick ass for the PCs to come into thier first encounter with the LoB swinging his sword out and shouting. "I will show you the greatest Nightmare!" Cookie to whoever gets that easy quote. Nightmare from Soul Calibur I also like the Doctor Doom idea.
Yakman 03-26-07, 04:16 PM	Now I like the idea of what he is fighting is the Dreaming Dark. The Quori continuous harassing and pestering him with messengers trying to sway him to join thier side. They tell him that the Warforged are Dal Quor's children upon the Material plane and that his kind are the key to creating a new paradise. The Lord of Blade obviously refuses and now he's under Assault by a bunch of Dreaming Dark loyal Warforged Pyrokineticists and Cryokineticists who are more or less walking artillary. wow... that just made me have a thought... only a certain number of quori can operate on ebberon at any given time, right? (i think it's in SoS) well, all these warforged were created, and if we use the assumption that each warforged is bound with a quori spirit, isn't it possible that this might count against the quori quota? As such, the Inspired are really hurting--tens of thousands of quori who ordinarily would be operating on Sarlona are instead bound as warforged... Riedra could be on the verge of collapse from the lack of quori enforcing Inspired rule! (If I'm totally wrong here, please feel free to point and laugh)
Ront Iron-Roar 03-27-07, 08:35 AM	I also like the Doctor Doom idea. It was either that or having the LoB face four anthropormorphic turtles with class levels in Monk and Fighter. Though on a further note maybe the Lord of Blades could be a fiend himself. Maybe a modified Hamatula with a vast amount of HD who like most other powerful fiends is still locked in Khyber. But, do to his close proximity to the Warforged and the event of the Mourning he can leave his corporeal body and possess one Warforged after another. Each time he enters a new Warforged it sprouts blades and grows in size and bulk as it takes on fiendish traits. All the while the Warforged under him are working to build him a new body. A solid metal Hamatula-esque construct crafted from solid adamantine. When the fiend becomes permanently bound to it the metal can reshape itself. Extend spines and claws out to extreme lengths and shoot out his spines.
Archangel62 04-03-07, 06:50 AM	I actually ran a campaign last year that dealt with the becoming God concept. The LoB was the last creation of the living forge, think master mold from X-men. What happened was that the forge began to convert menial units, like the ore miners and drudgers into combat oriented warforged and clockwork horrors. The giants grew worried and disassembled the forge and scattered its parts. The LoB was its last creation, imbued with the memories of the perfect schema to ressurect its mind, the leader of the Becoming God knows to create its body, once they unite a new threat would rise from the mournlands. But again, that was just my idea.