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gleicher27
08-22-07, 10:19 AM Has there been any discussion about Race Law's in Eberron ? Say for example a Kenku's body is found blugeoned and slashed out in the street. Do the local authorities care ? Do the five nations treat the death of goblins/orcs/hobgoblins differently than humans ?
nyysjan
08-22-07, 10:48 AM No, they do not (or do, but i'll get to it in a moment).
Race is not important, citizenship is, those who are citizens of 5 nations are protected by law, those that aren't, aren't.

Ofcourse, racial prejudices exist, but they are largely secondary when compared to nationalistic prejudices (or religious), but race is not an issue in the court of law (undead are not protected though, no matter where/who they are), but in a world with corruption and no omniscient judges, rules don't always matter when personal grudges come to play.
TiwazTyrsfist
08-22-07, 11:35 AM Basicly, If a body is found in Sharn, Human, Goblin, Troll, or Elf, and that body has no identification, no link to a government of major house, it goes in a hole in the ground, and gets as much investigation as the death of a homeless man in New York.

If a Goblin is found dead, and has ID papers on him, revealing him as a citizen of the five nations, a member/employee of a Dragonmarked house, or an emmesarry of Droaam, Then the guard will rip up the cobblestones looking for the killer, because they don't want political trouble.
Alex_
08-22-07, 11:42 AM I don't really have any institutionalized segregation or discrimination targeting specific groups on the basis of appearance/race in my campaigns.

Rules regarding rights and opportunities, etc, are all based on nationalism, since there's only a handful of nations. There are just so many sapient beings out there (dozens upon dozens), ranging from winged pixies to constructs of wood and metal that trying to cherry pick which race can do things and which ones can't would be practically impossible to enforce. This, as a consequence, results in most all discrimination being on a more personal level, or more broad ideas like faith, country of origin, general stereotypes as they apply to a situation, and past experiences.

The Dragonmarked houses probably have a few more laws, but those are mostly in regards to it's main family line race. House Lyrandar (being a Half-elf family) might have strict rules stating only Half-Elves can marry into the family, only Half-Elves can get into certain positions, and only Half-Elves can do this and that, but it doesn't have specific rules saying, "Humans can't do this," and "Elves can't do that,"

So in my campaign, Kenku aren't particularly common to begin with, and although most live in Sharn, they haven't cause any particular problems. How the watch would respond would depend on how many people had positive/negative/neutral relations with Kenku, and how much this influences their enforcement of laws.

I mean the local authority in Sharn is going to be a combination of Humans, Elves, Dwarves, Halflings, Gnomes, and other races, all with different cultural backgrounds and religious practices. Unless it suits the story otherwise, I'd just have them treat it like any other random body.

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gleicher27 08-22-07, 10:19 AM	Has there been any discussion about Race Law's in Eberron ? Say for example a Kenku's body is found blugeoned and slashed out in the street. Do the local authorities care ? Do the five nations treat the death of goblins/orcs/hobgoblins differently than humans ?
nyysjan 08-22-07, 10:48 AM	No, they do not (or do, but i'll get to it in a moment). Race is not important, citizenship is, those who are citizens of 5 nations are protected by law, those that aren't, aren't. Ofcourse, racial prejudices exist, but they are largely secondary when compared to nationalistic prejudices (or religious), but race is not an issue in the court of law (undead are not protected though, no matter where/who they are), but in a world with corruption and no omniscient judges, rules don't always matter when personal grudges come to play.
TiwazTyrsfist 08-22-07, 11:35 AM	Basicly, If a body is found in Sharn, Human, Goblin, Troll, or Elf, and that body has no identification, no link to a government of major house, it goes in a hole in the ground, and gets as much investigation as the death of a homeless man in New York. If a Goblin is found dead, and has ID papers on him, revealing him as a citizen of the five nations, a member/employee of a Dragonmarked house, or an emmesarry of Droaam, Then the guard will rip up the cobblestones looking for the killer, because they don't want political trouble.
Alex_ 08-22-07, 11:42 AM	I don't really have any institutionalized segregation or discrimination targeting specific groups on the basis of appearance/race in my campaigns. Rules regarding rights and opportunities, etc, are all based on nationalism, since there's only a handful of nations. There are just so many sapient beings out there (dozens upon dozens), ranging from winged pixies to constructs of wood and metal that trying to cherry pick which race can do things and which ones can't would be practically impossible to enforce. This, as a consequence, results in most all discrimination being on a more personal level, or more broad ideas like faith, country of origin, general stereotypes as they apply to a situation, and past experiences. The Dragonmarked houses probably have a few more laws, but those are mostly in regards to it's main family line race. House Lyrandar (being a Half-elf family) might have strict rules stating only Half-Elves can marry into the family, only Half-Elves can get into certain positions, and only Half-Elves can do this and that, but it doesn't have specific rules saying, "Humans can't do this," and "Elves can't do that," So in my campaign, Kenku aren't particularly common to begin with, and although most live in Sharn, they haven't cause any particular problems. How the watch would respond would depend on how many people had positive/negative/neutral relations with Kenku, and how much this influences their enforcement of laws. I mean the local authority in Sharn is going to be a combination of Humans, Elves, Dwarves, Halflings, Gnomes, and other races, all with different cultural backgrounds and religious practices. Unless it suits the story otherwise, I'd just have them treat it like any other random body.