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trollbill 06-10-07, 12:12 AM	1) A Warlock uses the invocation Summon Swarm. How long does it take him to cast it? The spell it immulates is a full round spell, but the text for Warlock says the Warlock's invocations are Spell-like abilities and thus take a standard action to cast and provoke an AoO. The Spell-like ability text in the MM says that Spell-like abilities take a Standard action unless otherwise mentioned (but don't specify where they have to be otherwise mentioned). 2) A Warlock uses the invocation Summon Swarm. He summons the Swarm into a room and then someone shuts the door inbetween himself and the room, causing a loss of line of effect. In order to maintain a swarm, the Warlock must maintain concentration. The rules mention that if the effect I am concentrating on moves out of its area, it is the same as if the concentration were broken. But it doesn't mention anything about what happens to concentration if the line of effect is broken to the thing being concentrated on. So what happens to the Swarm? 3) The first time the Summon Swarm spell mentions the behavior of the swarm it mentions 'creatures.' The next sentence, it mentions 'living creatures' and the 3rd sentences goes back to mentioning just 'creatures' again. So what happens when you summon a swarm on a bunch of undead?
Marcus Majarra 06-11-07, 02:13 AM	1) Since Complete Arcane indicates the invocation is used as the spell, invoking Summon Swarm requires the same time to activate as a summon swarm spell does. 2) Unless the spell states you no longer need line of effect to maintain the spell, the swarm goes bye-bye once line of effect is broken. 3) The swarm will attack the undead as normal. Undead will not be distracted by the swarm's attack (since it's Fort-based).
trollbill 06-12-07, 03:24 PM	1) Since Complete Arcane indicates the invocation is used as the spell, invoking Summon Swarm requires the same time to activate as a summon swarm spell does. How does this reconcile with the actual text for Invocations that says they are spell-like abilities and thus require a standard action? 2) Unless the spell states you no longer need line of effect to maintain the spell, the swarm goes bye-bye once line of effect is broken. Could you please indicate in the rules where it says losing line of effect for a spell you are maintaining causes the spell to end?
Hellcast 06-13-07, 09:33 PM	the invocation is a standard but the duration is concentration instead of concentration +2 rounds so you can't make an army of swarms. I think as long as they are in the AoE they don't disappear, but since they move on their own they can move too far and then puff.