Post/Author/DateTime	Post
bertman4 02-06-07, 05:19 PM	4th level versions of the fastplays are out! http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebxe/20070206a Yeah, the elf cleric still has no ranks in Knowledge Religion. :( Bertman
Skerrit 02-06-07, 05:30 PM	He's not that kind of cleric!
bertman4 02-06-07, 06:31 PM	He's not that kind of cleric! Yes, I understand that. But if you look at the Fastplays as a whole, none of the clerics have Knowledge Religion. In fact, the only fastplay out of 21 possible fastplays that has any ranks in Knowledge Religoin is the Half-Orc Paladin. I think that's a serious oversight. Bertman
Skerrit 02-06-07, 06:35 PM	Clearly you think Knowledge (religion) is a pretty important skill! People who need a fastplay (someone new to the game, someone grabbing a fastplay to balance out a missing class ability or someone grabbing a fastplay for the delve) usually aren't specifically looking for some ranks in a Knowledge skill. That said, if you would rather have ranks in a Knowledge, make your own PC. If you are short on time, grab a fastplay and customize it a bit (lose that Concentration skill in favor of making a more bookish cleric with Knowledge skills) and call it your own. Note your own PC doesn't the mini unlock ability, but you can use cards instead, so you aren't really loosing anything.
kiddoc 02-06-07, 08:15 PM	I most definately agree with Greg on this one. There are 21 fastplays to choose from. 21!!!!! Anyone who has the time to look over them and post a complaint about a design issue with them (that was not an oversight), has the time to slap a name on them and reassign the skill points, hence making it their "own" character. These are for folks that show up with nothing, who on the spot have no time to do so much as reassign skill points. Some of them are pretty average, but I made a conscious effort to give them a little nudge up from last time. And I promise, next time I will make a cleric with 0 concentration 0 heal, 0 diplomacy and maxed out Know: Rel. Hehehe :D Oh and next time there will be 24 to choose from. And nobody mentioned my kobold addition! :mad:
Woodstock 02-06-07, 08:37 PM	And nobody mentioned my kobold addition! :mad: WOW!!! I want him!!! I'm not a big fan of monks, but I love kobolds!!!! :D But I think there's a mistake... the second page of the Shifter Ranger brings the second page of the Gnoll Fighter. :confused:
Istaran 02-06-07, 08:54 PM	Oh and next time there will be 24 to choose from. And nobody mentioned my kobold addition! :mad: Will one of the 24 be a kobold sorcerer? The kobold immediately drew my attention, but I am dismayed that he has a mere 8 cha. He would require a +4 cloak of cha to benefit form his own racial favored class. How is he ever supposed to cast Create Trap? Oh well. I'll just have to be satisified with my ex-kobold spellscale dragonshaman/sorcerer. btw, is there any other way to get access to kobolds right now? I'm not familiar with the creation cards..
kiddoc 02-06-07, 10:17 PM	WOW!!! I want him!!! I'm not a big fan of monks, but I love kobolds!!!! :D But I think there's a mistake... the second page of the Shifter Ranger brings the second page of the Gnoll Fighter. :confused: That's definately a posting error. My page 2 of shifter scout has all the right stuff. I'm resending it to our Webdwarf to correct the mispost. I'll also see if he can add a rank or two of Know--Rel for me. As for the kobold--you'll have to ask Shawn Merwin, factionmaster for the Crimson Codex about that. My schtick is to shake up standard character creation, but it would take a special creation card (most likely from CC--closely aligned with draconic races) to make a kobold of any other race.
kiddoc 02-06-07, 11:21 PM	But I think there's a mistake... the second page of the Shifter Ranger brings the second page of the Gnoll Fighter. :confused: Just a note, this has been sent to the attention of the Webdwarf. Should be fixed soon. May even be some ranks in Know: rel showing up somewhere on some holy-types. :P
Woodstock 02-06-07, 11:57 PM	Ops. Even I made a mistake! Shifter scout, not ranger!!! And thanks Kiddoc! But we shoudn't blame the webdwarf!!! They just had some land shaking events in Mror Holds!
Harliquinn 02-07-07, 09:07 AM	Oh and next time there will be 24 to choose from. And nobody mentioned my kobold addition! :mad: I love the addition of a Kobold (If only I didn't already have 4 registered characters). However, I did notice the kobold has no figure unlock :( That said, great work guys on getting these out early! Harliquinn
Woodstock 02-07-07, 09:29 AM	I love the addition of a Kobold (If only I didn't already have 4 registered characters). However, I did notice the kobold has no figure unlock :( That said, great work guys on getting these out early! Harliquinn If I remember well, he has! It's the Kobold Monk, from Blood Wars.
kiddoc 02-07-07, 09:35 AM	If I remember well, he has! It's the Kobold Monk, from Blood Wars. Right. Check page 2--Dance of Shadow and Scale. Glad you enjoy the kobold. Anyone want to make requests for races for the upcoming CoL, CC, and CS fastplay additions? I do take requests :D
echoota 02-07-07, 10:12 AM	Right. Check page 2--Dance of Shadow and Scale. Glad you enjoy the kobold. Anyone want to make requests for races for the upcoming CoL, CC, and CS fastplay additions? I do take requests :D It would be very cool, both in terms of figure use and in terms of material to do a Duergar Psychic Warrior. First, you get to use both the regular size duergar figure from Archfiends, and then also the large Duergar from War Drums when the player uses the expansion power. Second, we don't have any fastplay psionic characters and there is plenty of psionics in Eberron so it would be a nice package deal for those who want to try it out. Just give a note that you need the XPH to use the character. Third, the level bump lets you cleanly get over the LA+1 for newbies. The character just starts at 3rd level rather than 4th.
Harliquinn 02-07-07, 10:21 AM	If I remember well, he has! It's the Kobold Monk, from Blood Wars. Wow, how did I miss that? I think the 2 page instead of 3 page format messed me up. I'll go back and check! Thanks. Harli
Harliquinn 02-07-07, 10:35 AM	Right. Check page 2--Dance of Shadow and Scale. Glad you enjoy the kobold. Anyone want to make requests for races for the upcoming CoL, CC, and CS fastplay additions? I do take requests :D Well assuming you can choose non-standard races/classes still, then I would love to see the following (Though some may not be possible due to the ability of players to use fast plays as their mains): For Crimson Codex: 1) A Spellscale Cleric of the Dragon Above 2) A Kobold Dragonfire Adept or Archivist For Blackwheel Company: 1) An Orc or Hobgoblin Druid of the Gatekeepers 2) A Goblin Artificer / Alchemist For Covenant of Light 1) A Half-Orc Paladin 2) A Raptoran Ranger For Cabal of Shadows 1) Daelkyr Half-Blood Rogue 2) Catfolk Druid of Winter Well those are my suggestions :) Harliquinn
lordtiberiusfoxx 02-07-07, 01:50 PM	Right. Check page 2--Dance of Shadow and Scale. Glad you enjoy the kobold. Anyone want to make requests for races for the upcoming CoL, CC, and CS fastplay additions? I do take requests :D Here are some suggestions using common minis from the last four sets (I wanted a new player to be able to get their hands on them quickly and affordably): Crimson Codex Whitespawn Hordling Rogue (Whitespawn Hordling mini) Covenant of Light Spirit Folk Favored Soul (Spirit Folk Fighter mini) Human Ranger/Paladin (Doomguard... just cause I like the sculp :D ) Cabal of Shadows Troglodyte Fighter (Troglodyte thug) Human cleric of the Blood of Vol (Blood of Vol cultist)
Moribund 02-07-07, 08:35 PM	Poor Elf Ex-Druid, she should lose all her spells and class abilities. Serves her right for being Chaotic Good.
Hellcast 02-07-07, 08:42 PM	could one pick a fastplay and retool it per CS 2.0?I don't like those roles but for fastplay they are good, because of some of the locked races:P
kiddoc 02-07-07, 10:46 PM	Just an update. The Elf Druid is a true rebel. The crazy awakened greatpine Oalian has granted her the ability to suddenly be non-neutral. The first druid EVAR!!!!! Deal with it. :P Shifter Scout page 2, now with fix. Fix I say. Genelfric. Uh... Generic... Elf... Cleric... now with Knowledge Religion (bah!). Changeling Wizard (Chwiz?)--now with some extra skill points. Oops. :embarrass I'm also considering your race/class combos for next time. Keep in mind though, the K.I.S.S. rule. I had 6-year olds at Gencon playing fastplays, it has to be pretty simple. Psionics are too complicated for a fastplay, kobolds are not. Somewhere there's a perfect balance between the complexity of a whitespawn hordeling rogue and a human monk (feat: run). I'll incorporate those ideas into building better and more flexible fastplays in the future.
lordtiberiusfoxx 02-07-07, 10:54 PM	While the Whitespawn suggestion of mine I never expected to make it, I'm really hoping for the troglodyte. It would be the first time I've seen a trog as a PC ever, and at least one player we know locally would start playing XE if he could play a trog. Keeping my fingers crossed. ;)
Istaran 02-07-07, 11:32 PM	could one pick a fastplay and retool it per CS 2.0?I don't like those roles but for fastplay they are good, because of some of the locked races:P I think so, but you would have to register the fastplay char before the retool becomes available, so.. I think that means get your kobold now, retool it 6 months from now... or maybe if you register it before level bump you are set? You would also have to retain at least one level of monk and the starting stats listed for the fastplay. Of course those stats are basically useless for an arcane caster, so your choices are limited. Mundane combatant or divine caster?
Istaran 02-07-07, 11:50 PM	Requests: Crimson Codex: Gnome Dragon shaman. Cabal of Shadows: Mongrelfolk Ranger (favored enemy humanoid(human)) Covenent of Light: Human Favoured Soul
Istaran 02-08-07, 12:02 AM	I believe there is a typo in the kobold monk. His deflection bonus is listed as +2, and his armor bonus is listed as +0, when he has a +1 bracers of armor and a +1 ring of protection.
lordtiberiusfoxx 02-17-07, 02:00 PM	The drow sorceror is missing a cantrip. Yes, I know that's a pretty minor error. If someone brings the fastplay to a table of mine (or one of my group) we'll just have her choose an additional cantrip if that's kosher. :cool:
DiegoNegro 02-28-07, 01:19 PM	The Drow Sorceress has Gloves of Dexterity 2, a $4K magic item which is above the allowable level cap. Her AC, Init, ranged attack bonuses aren't adjusted for the gloves...If she was allowed to have them. Also, I think at 4th level she's missing an ability point in one of her stats. Enough of my nits...Let's go play!:D
Kelvane 02-28-07, 02:33 PM	At fourth level she still only has three class levels because of the level bump.
lordtiberiusfoxx 02-28-07, 02:45 PM	The Drow Sorceress has Gloves of Dexterity 2, a $4K magic item which is above the allowable level cap. Her AC, Init, ranged attack bonuses aren't adjusted for the gloves...If she was allowed to have them. Also, I think at 4th level she's missing an ability point in one of her stats. Enough of my nits...Let's go play!:D She only has three hit dice from her level adjustment, so her ability score stat line is correct. The other parts are easily corrected. I'm pretty sure that the above the cap equipment was intentional, but I can't comment on that as I'm not the author. :D I just always considered it the bonus of the fastplay.
kiddoc 02-28-07, 04:00 PM	She only has three hit dice from her level adjustment, so her ability score stat line is correct. The other parts are easily corrected. I'm pretty sure that the above the cap equipment was intentional, but I can't comment on that as I'm not the author. :D I just always considered it the bonus of the fastplay. I did, indeed, include some naughty bonuses for the fastplays. For her, I just felt bad about the level adjustment, so she got some fancy accessories. Sorry about the slip--Heroforge apparently does not apply magic item bonuses ex-post-facto. I'll make sure I catch that one in the future. ;)
Hellcast 02-28-07, 04:04 PM	Another thing in the drow sorceress, she has the CoS special ability (call on shadow) but is of evil alignment, maybe just another perk of the fastplay:P
DiegoNegro 03-01-07, 02:56 PM	Probably a stupid question, but how do I register a fastplay using the character tracker if I intend to keep and advance that character? There isn't a fastplay selection from the menu. Should I act as if it is created using the necessary creation card and then just keep a copy of the original fastplay character sheet for documentation? :confused:
Harliquinn 03-01-07, 04:32 PM	Check again, I think there is a Fastplay under Creation Card, it's prepended with something like Xen'drik Fastplay or something similar. Then you chooce your race/class as "As creation card"