Poll: beating the next level kick? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Poll: beating the next level kick? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Marcus Majarra
07-10-07, 09:11 PM The question is simple: is any of your characters ahead of the upcoming level kick? Which character is it? The assumption here is that it will be a level 7 kick, with around 18,000 gp.

Personally speaking, I have at least one character ahead of the level kick. Though there are still some adventures to be recorded by the end of the week, he's currently at level 7, with over 22,000 gp. This character is my Codex knowledge-focused changeling rogue.

Anyone else?
Tabiani
07-10-07, 09:28 PM The question is simple: is any of your characters ahead of the upcoming level kick? Which character is it? The assumption here is that it will be a level 7 kick, with around 18,000 gp.
My level 7 Blackwheel character will break the 18kgp mark; he's at 17K and change with the Origins mod unrecorded and the second Eyes mod this weekend. Level 8 is probably just a pipe-dream unless I can find DM5 & 6 and they prove to be enough.

The only other character I play much is my 6th level Cabal character. It's unlikely she'll get the 4+kgp from Origins she needs to hit 18kgp and I doubt I'll find a DM6 for her, either. Having just hit 6th, I don't think 7th is within reach for her.

I'm pretty happy at this point, though. :D
Harliquinn
07-10-07, 11:17 PM My Codex (primary faction) character has already broken it. I am hoping some of my other characters might at least hit 7th and get a boost in gold.
JJeff
07-10-07, 11:42 PM Can we know what you have played with your characters that have broken the bump? Just so we know what it took.
Harliquinn
07-11-07, 08:12 AM Codex: (7th / 18k+ gp) - CC 4, 5, DM's Mark 4, 6, Eyes of Lich Queen 1, Expedition 3 [Not yet recorded: CC 6, DM's Mark 5, Eyes of Lich Queen 2, Expedition 4]

I expect my other characters to at least 'reach' the Level Bump (7th) and attain more gold than the bump would give (18k), by playing:

Faction Modules 4, 5, 6
DM's Marks 4, 5, 6
Timlagor
07-12-07, 07:56 PM I'm expecting all 4 of mycharacters to break level 7 from the faction and DM Marks alone (not all played yet but I'm optimistic).

Level 7 is supposed to be 19kgp (19,500?) according to the DMG guideline and I noticed that they hit level 7 with less than that. (has the level bump been announced?)

I've played Eyes 1 but it was misreported and probably won't be able to play the Expedition ones because they aren't available online.
Tabiani
07-13-07, 09:52 AM Can we know what you have played with your characters that have broken the bump? Just so we know what it took.My Origins data has been posted so here's the latest. The only mod left I have scheduled to play is EotLQ 2 so I'll edit that data in later.

Blackwheel Level 8 28,350 gp
BWC 4, 5, 6
BWD 4, 5, 6
EXP 3, 4
XDP 1, 2

Cabal Level 6 16,675 gp
CSH 4, 5, 6
CSD 4, 5

My Blackwheel character might hit level 8 this weekend but would have a good chance if I had the last two DM's Marks. My Cabal character would almost certainly hit 18kgp and maybe level 7 if I could get DM #6.

For the record, neither hit level 4 or 5kgp before the last level bump.

edit 1: BW still level 7; no real surprise, I guess. But it's looking good for getting the DM's Marks in so there still is hope!
edit 2: DM's Mark 6, DM 5 has been played but not reported.
edit 3: Final, level 8. Woohoo!
Harliquinn
07-13-07, 10:20 AM After Origins Reports:

Codex: Level: 8, GP: 27550
Played: Factions: 4,5,6; DM's Marks: 4,6, Exp: 3,4, EotLQ: 1
Remaining: DM's Mark: 5, EotLQ: 2

Blackwheel: Level: 6, GP: 14050
Played: Factions: 4,5,6; DM's Marks: 4
Remaining: DM's Mark: 5,6

Covenant: Level: 6, GP: 15750
Played: Factions: 4,5,6; DM's Marks: 4,5
Remaining: DM's Mark: 6

Cabal: Level: 6, GP: 17850
Played: Factions: 4,5,6; DM's Marks: 4,5
Remaining: DM's Mark: 6
lseelba
07-14-07, 07:32 PM I reported BWC DM's 6 today Harliquinn. Are you level 7 yet?
Frobi-Wan Kenobi
07-14-07, 11:18 PM I've got a Blackwheel character that's just played the last of the available faction mods as well as all of the expeditions available from Well of Woe and he is 9th with over 30k.

The rest of my PCs are at 7th with just under 20k each.
Harliquinn
07-15-07, 10:47 AM I reported BWC DM's 6 today Harliquinn. Are you level 7 yet?

I am 6th still but I need the last GM's Mark 5 for my BWC.
Marcus Majarra
07-16-07, 02:08 AM Final results are in:

My Codex changeling rogue is 9th-level, with 33,650 gp. Played in every adventure available to him since the start of the campaign. The level bump re-tool will have him as either a Rogue 4 / Master Inquisitive 5, or as a Rogue 6 / Master Inquisitive 3. Good times, good times!
smerwin29
07-16-07, 07:32 AM Wow. That's impressive. You must have nailed every single adventure perfectly. Good job. You make a Factionmaster proud.
Marcus Majarra
07-16-07, 08:35 AM I was surprised to make it to level 9. I was expecting a happily wealthy level 8. At this rate (if things keep up), FWK and I could be one entire level kick ahead of the D&D Experience 2008 level kick (assuming it's L10, as it was for MoH). I'll bet Harliquinn's Codex character will also reach L9 after reporting that DM's Mark and the 2nd EotLQ mod.
Harliquinn
07-16-07, 09:58 AM I am still 8th after 2nd EotLQ, however I will be doing the last DM's Mark this weekend, so we'll see. I think I'll have along the same order of GP as you (Though I do have a small hit to my EV due to something which I cannot mention).
Tabiani
07-16-07, 11:02 AM I'm curious now. I missed only DM's Marks 2&3 on my BW character and was level 3 with less than 5kgp at the last level bump. None of my others were even close. So, as I've said, I started at level 4/5kgp this time around.

For Frobi-Wan, Marcus, Harliquinn, and/or anyone else who would care to answer. If you remember, where were your characters at the last level bump?
smerwin29
07-16-07, 11:20 AM A PC that played every single adventure before the bump at DDXP 2007 could have been just shy of 5th level, but would have beat the wealth bump of 6000gp by a good margin. That assumes playing everything and doing very well in everything.
Harliquinn
07-16-07, 12:10 PM I'm curious now. I missed only DM's Marks 2&3 on my BW character and was level 3 with less than 5kgp at the last level bump. None of my others were even close. So, as I've said, I started at level 4/5kgp this time around.

For Frobi-Wan, Marcus, Harliquinn, and/or anyone else who would care to answer. If you remember, where were your characters at the last level bump?

All of my non-Codex characters got 'bumped' to 4th (The 3-round Expedition really put my Codex ahead). Right now, all of them are missing roughly 1 DM's Mark and are 6th with about 14k gp on average. I expect that they will each just reach 7th (maybe) with probably 16-17k gp (Bumped up to whatever the level bump will give)
Marcus Majarra
07-16-07, 01:22 PM My Codex character was still level 4 at the level kick, albeit with a few extra thousand gp's worth of EV.

I am still 8th after 2nd EotLQ, however I will be doing the last DM's Mark this weekend, so we'll see. I think I'll have along the same order of GP as you (Though I do have a small hit to my EV due to something which I cannot mention).
If this wasn't in a DM's Mark, I think I know what you mean and I feel your pain. I too took a small hit to my EV.
JJeff
07-16-07, 08:57 PM Oh my, it would seem you were convinced to part with your money without a fight. I don't know if my players would do the same, they might just charge into their deaths than part with their money.

Of course, knowing my guys, I may actually have a suicide to engineer...
Harliquinn
07-16-07, 09:03 PM Considering who my character is, it was an easy choice :) It's not that big of a deal to matter in the long run.
Marcus Majarra
07-17-07, 01:59 AM Oh my, it would seem you were convinced to part with your money without a fight.
Well, we happened to get lucky with money in that mod, so it all balanced out in the end.

And I agree with Harliquinn. The loss is not a big deal, all things considered. We still turned a profit!
Frobi-Wan Kenobi
07-17-07, 11:10 AM I'm curious now. I missed only DM's Marks 2&3 on my BW character and was level 3 with less than 5kgp at the last level bump. None of my others were even close. So, as I've said, I started at level 4/5kgp this time around.

For Frobi-Wan, Marcus, Harliquinn, and/or anyone else who would care to answer. If you remember, where were your characters at the last level bump?

My main was at 4th level and the rest were at 3rd I'm not sure on their EVs but I think that even the 3rd levels were above the bump in gold.
Zantumal_Waveharp
07-19-07, 04:07 PM I have beat the bump with my BWC Warmage, But all the others seem to have no hope at this time... Too many modules to get in before the bump.:weep:

Just looked again last night, and my Codex Changling Wizard is going to beat the bump as well.
Kelvane
07-24-07, 01:31 AM My Cabal rogue is level 8, 28,000 ev. with only Exp 4 to be reported yet. I expect a big ev boost from this one the way things turned out.
JJeff
07-24-07, 04:26 AM I wonder, can a character hit level 8 without DM marks?
Harliquinn
07-24-07, 07:46 AM Without the DM's Marks? Only if they played both Expeditions and both Lich Queen's, and even then it's not guaranteed. It's about 2 adventures / level.

I can confirm that with *only* 3 Faction Mods and 3 DM's Marks that you can hit 7th.
Madfox11
07-24-07, 11:51 AM Well, my BWC character went from level 4 to 6 in the 3 faction adventures. Would he really need 3 DMs marks for the next level? Mind you, I don't expect him to make the bump. There are no BWC adventures in the make before the level bump after all...
Harliquinn
07-24-07, 12:39 PM Was he 4th from the level bump last time? If so, then I am surprised you made it to 6th from 3. Then again I guess it's obviously possible.
Marcus Majarra
07-24-07, 12:42 PM I wonder, can a character hit level 8 without DM marks?
I'd say yes, albeit barely, and only if you've played through every adventure available before the last level bump.
Istaran
07-24-07, 02:22 PM I've just beaten the level bump by 30gp (and some fraction of a leve), been bumped last time, and having played only one DM's mark. I still have 2 parts of Eyes of the Lich Queen to go before the bump, so I'm expecting to hit 8 before the bump if I'm lucky. My other two chars are both in line for a 2-level bump. (maybe 1, depending on this coming Saturday's results.)
Madfox11
07-25-07, 08:58 AM Was he 4th from the level bump last time? If so, then I am surprised you made it to 6th from 3. Then again I guess it's obviously possible.

I hadn't played him before the level bump, so yes, he was 4th with no additional xp. I was surprised as well...
Timlagor
07-28-07, 10:18 PM I believe the DM Marks do give lower rewards than the faction mods. You are probably only just 6th and would be just short of 7th from the first two DMMs. You might just squeak over the line to 7th with two DMMs but I doubt it (think you can get about 2,500xp from each ..though it might also be something like 2,000, 2,500 and 3,000 with the later ones giving more).
Madfox11
07-30-07, 07:29 AM I believe the DM Marks do give lower rewards than the faction mods. You are probably only just 6th and would be just short of 7th from the first two DMMs. You might just squeak over the line to 7th with two DMMs but I doubt it (think you can get about 2,500xp from each ..though it might also be something like 2,000, 2,500 and 3,000 with the later ones giving more).

If the EV values of the DMG are used I doubt he is just 6th level, since he already had the EV of a 6th level before playing that DMs mark. In the end though: who cares? ;) If my goal was to beat the level kick I should have played more often.
Lilinthra
07-30-07, 09:17 AM My primary character is 7th level (around mid-level?) with a hair over 20.5k gp.
Timlagor
07-30-07, 09:57 PM Anyone hit 7th level with 19,000gp or more?

All my characters seemed to have about 18000 except for one who had a Story Object that says "you have been granted an EV bonus" which presumably was included since it didn't tell me how much.

The DMG gp for 7th level is 19000...
JJeff
07-30-07, 10:51 PM My players that have played Factional 4-6 + EXP 4 are at Level 6, I think
Those that ALSO played Eyes of the Lich Queen are at Lvl 7 with 21k EV or something close to that.
Lilinthra
07-31-07, 07:55 AM Anyone hit 7th level with 19,000gp or more?

All my characters seemed to have about 18000 except for one who had a Story Object that says "you have been granted an EV bonus" which presumably was included since it didn't tell me how much.

The DMG gp for 7th level is 19000...
No, I originally hit 7th level with 17940gp
Harliquinn
07-31-07, 08:28 AM All my non-primary characters (Those that played Faction 4-6, DM's 4-6 only) all reached 7th but with only about 18k-18.5k gp.
Kelvane
08-01-07, 03:01 AM My Cabal rogue is level 8, Ev 28800. EXP-4 was mistakinly reported to my Codex character. So if fixed I may hit Level 9, EV 31-32000. This character has played everything.
Timlagor
08-01-07, 07:33 AM Looks like you fall steadily further and further behind the gold curve as you level up. I imagine this is because the rewards for each module are fixed and they are all based on level 4 xp/gp ratios.

I'm not sure this can easily be fixed but it should definitely be looked at because the recommended xp/gp ratio changes increasingly rapidly as you go up. (good thing we have Story Objects and APs to compensate ;) ..not to mention all those nice overpowered options)
Marcia_S
08-01-07, 07:53 PM I've played everything available with my Cabal character and am 8th level with 33k EV. My other characters are further behind at 6th/18k, 6th/13k, and 5th/10k, which isn't actually that bad, as they've all either started or re-started since I played the 4th faction mods and I haven't been able to play all of the mods available for them.

Marcia
lseelba
08-02-07, 12:11 AM I only play one faction, but after all is said and done, my Covenant character is Level 7 with 20,500. When she first hit 7 I think she had about 18K. I've played everything I could (online) except Lich Queen 2 (couldn't find a DM) and CoL 4 (I was on vacation).

-Lou
Harliquinn
08-06-07, 03:24 PM Well my main character (Codex) didn't hit 9th, as one of my DM's Marks didn't get credited correctly. I've been working with Chris and the DM to get it invalidated and re-recorded but playing middleman hasn't gone so well and the right information hasn't gotten to the right people yet. I hope they one day let Lead GM for an event invalidate it so that it can be fixed, particularly close to level bumps and other database blackouts. Chris has been great in getting back with me, but there are still problems getting the info where it needs to go.

My other characters all hit 7th but none were above the GP bump.

John
Garden_State_Gamer
08-06-07, 05:01 PM I know two of my Cabal players hit 8th. They ran the characters through both parts of Lich Queen, and all the eligible expeditions and marks.

As for me, my Covenant of Light character beat the gold cap by 500 gp, but it still 7th.
Kelvane
08-08-07, 02:40 AM Well my Cabal character was fixed and finished lvl 8, 31775 E.V.
Harliquinn
08-09-07, 02:38 PM WOOT! Today is a happy day. Apparently my appeal went through (Thanks to Chris Tulach for his help) and my Crimson Codex character is now 9th level with 33,050gp! I have played all available modules with that character.

John
Garden_State_Gamer
08-09-07, 03:32 PM Congrats 'Quin. You'll be well past the next kick in no time.

Note to self --
1. Avoid running any CC mods for a Human Copper Dragon Shaman named Rachisk

2. Make sure to play in any CC mods with a Human Copper Dragon Shaman named Rachisk.
Harliquinn
08-09-07, 04:25 PM Thanks! I really enjoy my Dragon Shaman. He's never the 'OMG you did how much damage?' character, but he can hold his own. He certainly isn't 'optimized' (I mean I took education at 1st level and most of my skill points go into Knowledges), but he is fun to roleplay. I'm thinking of changing some of his planned progression with the inclusion of Complete Champion now (The Knowledge Devotion would be perfect for him).

It was my Cabal character that actually 'beat' the GP cap, while my BWC and CoL were about 750 and 500 below it.
Saski
08-12-07, 08:54 AM WOOT! Today is a happy day. Apparently my appeal went through (Thanks to Chris Tulach for his help) and my Crimson Codex character is now 9th level with 33,050gp! I have played all available modules with that character.

John

Who did you talk to?/How did you get this fixed? I have played every single mod, but I have an Eyes of the Lich Queen that is not reporting, and an older Expedition that I noticed today was not in my official log as well. I am guessing that I am exceptionally close to the 9th level mark as I am only about 3000 gold behind most of the people here on the boards. (I'm actually only... 1000 gold behind what you posted, so I know I'm close. /cry)

Hell, I'd be willing to play with my current gold regardless, if I got to get to 9th level for that oh so important casting level. =/
Harliquinn
08-12-07, 09:09 AM I spoke with Chris Tulach, though that isn't the usual chain of command and I hated to bother him directly. I hope he gets a raise :)
Evanta
08-13-07, 10:32 AM It seriously sucks that due to a story object, and the fact that my character's EV is still in limbo (the reporting error has not been rectified), I have LESS than the 19k EV for a starting character.

Might as well just retire my current character to get more EV, the story objects I have gotten so far are not sufficient to compensate the loss.

Or perhaps just quit XE altogether. That's a thought...
lseelba
08-14-07, 07:51 PM It seriously sucks that due to a story object, and the fact that my character's EV is still in limbo (the reporting error has not been rectified), I have LESS than the 19k EV for a starting character.

Might as well just retire my current character to get more EV, the story objects I have gotten so far are not sufficient to compensate the loss.

Or perhaps just quit XE altogether. That's a thought...

You can't get more EV by retiring your character. When the level bump happens, your EV will be bumped if you are below 19K.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Marcus Majarra 07-10-07, 09:11 PM	The question is simple: is any of your characters ahead of the upcoming level kick? Which character is it? The assumption here is that it will be a level 7 kick, with around 18,000 gp. Personally speaking, I have at least one character ahead of the level kick. Though there are still some adventures to be recorded by the end of the week, he's currently at level 7, with over 22,000 gp. This character is my Codex knowledge-focused changeling rogue. Anyone else?
Tabiani 07-10-07, 09:28 PM	The question is simple: is any of your characters ahead of the upcoming level kick? Which character is it? The assumption here is that it will be a level 7 kick, with around 18,000 gp. My level 7 Blackwheel character will break the 18kgp mark; he's at 17K and change with the Origins mod unrecorded and the second Eyes mod this weekend. Level 8 is probably just a pipe-dream unless I can find DM5 & 6 and they prove to be enough. The only other character I play much is my 6th level Cabal character. It's unlikely she'll get the 4+kgp from Origins she needs to hit 18kgp and I doubt I'll find a DM6 for her, either. Having just hit 6th, I don't think 7th is within reach for her. I'm pretty happy at this point, though. :D
Harliquinn 07-10-07, 11:17 PM	My Codex (primary faction) character has already broken it. I am hoping some of my other characters might at least hit 7th and get a boost in gold.
JJeff 07-10-07, 11:42 PM	Can we know what you have played with your characters that have broken the bump? Just so we know what it took.
Harliquinn 07-11-07, 08:12 AM	Codex: (7th / 18k+ gp) - CC 4, 5, DM's Mark 4, 6, Eyes of Lich Queen 1, Expedition 3 [Not yet recorded: CC 6, DM's Mark 5, Eyes of Lich Queen 2, Expedition 4] I expect my other characters to at least 'reach' the Level Bump (7th) and attain more gold than the bump would give (18k), by playing: Faction Modules 4, 5, 6 DM's Marks 4, 5, 6
Timlagor 07-12-07, 07:56 PM	I'm expecting all 4 of mycharacters to break level 7 from the faction and DM Marks alone (not all played yet but I'm optimistic). Level 7 is supposed to be 19kgp (19,500?) according to the DMG guideline and I noticed that they hit level 7 with less than that. (has the level bump been announced?) I've played Eyes 1 but it was misreported and probably won't be able to play the Expedition ones because they aren't available online.
Tabiani 07-13-07, 09:52 AM	Can we know what you have played with your characters that have broken the bump? Just so we know what it took.My Origins data has been posted so here's the latest. The only mod left I have scheduled to play is EotLQ 2 so I'll edit that data in later. Blackwheel Level 8 28,350 gp BWC 4, 5, 6 BWD 4, 5, 6 EXP 3, 4 XDP 1, 2 Cabal Level 6 16,675 gp CSH 4, 5, 6 CSD 4, 5 My Blackwheel character might hit level 8 this weekend but would have a good chance if I had the last two DM's Marks. My Cabal character would almost certainly hit 18kgp and maybe level 7 if I could get DM #6. For the record, neither hit level 4 or 5kgp before the last level bump. edit 1: BW still level 7; no real surprise, I guess. But it's looking good for getting the DM's Marks in so there still is hope! edit 2: DM's Mark 6, DM 5 has been played but not reported. edit 3: Final, level 8. Woohoo!
Harliquinn 07-13-07, 10:20 AM	After Origins Reports: Codex: Level: 8, GP: 27550 Played: Factions: 4,5,6; DM's Marks: 4,6, Exp: 3,4, EotLQ: 1 Remaining: DM's Mark: 5, EotLQ: 2 Blackwheel: Level: 6, GP: 14050 Played: Factions: 4,5,6; DM's Marks: 4 Remaining: DM's Mark: 5,6 Covenant: Level: 6, GP: 15750 Played: Factions: 4,5,6; DM's Marks: 4,5 Remaining: DM's Mark: 6 Cabal: Level: 6, GP: 17850 Played: Factions: 4,5,6; DM's Marks: 4,5 Remaining: DM's Mark: 6
lseelba 07-14-07, 07:32 PM	I reported BWC DM's 6 today Harliquinn. Are you level 7 yet?
Frobi-Wan Kenobi 07-14-07, 11:18 PM	I've got a Blackwheel character that's just played the last of the available faction mods as well as all of the expeditions available from Well of Woe and he is 9th with over 30k. The rest of my PCs are at 7th with just under 20k each.
Harliquinn 07-15-07, 10:47 AM	I reported BWC DM's 6 today Harliquinn. Are you level 7 yet? I am 6th still but I need the last GM's Mark 5 for my BWC.
Marcus Majarra 07-16-07, 02:08 AM	Final results are in: My Codex changeling rogue is 9th-level, with 33,650 gp. Played in every adventure available to him since the start of the campaign. The level bump re-tool will have him as either a Rogue 4 / Master Inquisitive 5, or as a Rogue 6 / Master Inquisitive 3. Good times, good times!
smerwin29 07-16-07, 07:32 AM	Wow. That's impressive. You must have nailed every single adventure perfectly. Good job. You make a Factionmaster proud.
Marcus Majarra 07-16-07, 08:35 AM	I was surprised to make it to level 9. I was expecting a happily wealthy level 8. At this rate (if things keep up), FWK and I could be one entire level kick ahead of the D&D Experience 2008 level kick (assuming it's L10, as it was for MoH). I'll bet Harliquinn's Codex character will also reach L9 after reporting that DM's Mark and the 2nd EotLQ mod.
Harliquinn 07-16-07, 09:58 AM	I am still 8th after 2nd EotLQ, however I will be doing the last DM's Mark this weekend, so we'll see. I think I'll have along the same order of GP as you (Though I do have a small hit to my EV due to something which I cannot mention).
Tabiani 07-16-07, 11:02 AM	I'm curious now. I missed only DM's Marks 2&3 on my BW character and was level 3 with less than 5kgp at the last level bump. None of my others were even close. So, as I've said, I started at level 4/5kgp this time around. For Frobi-Wan, Marcus, Harliquinn, and/or anyone else who would care to answer. If you remember, where were your characters at the last level bump?
smerwin29 07-16-07, 11:20 AM	A PC that played every single adventure before the bump at DDXP 2007 could have been just shy of 5th level, but would have beat the wealth bump of 6000gp by a good margin. That assumes playing everything and doing very well in everything.
Harliquinn 07-16-07, 12:10 PM	I'm curious now. I missed only DM's Marks 2&3 on my BW character and was level 3 with less than 5kgp at the last level bump. None of my others were even close. So, as I've said, I started at level 4/5kgp this time around. For Frobi-Wan, Marcus, Harliquinn, and/or anyone else who would care to answer. If you remember, where were your characters at the last level bump? All of my non-Codex characters got 'bumped' to 4th (The 3-round Expedition really put my Codex ahead). Right now, all of them are missing roughly 1 DM's Mark and are 6th with about 14k gp on average. I expect that they will each just reach 7th (maybe) with probably 16-17k gp (Bumped up to whatever the level bump will give)
Marcus Majarra 07-16-07, 01:22 PM	My Codex character was still level 4 at the level kick, albeit with a few extra thousand gp's worth of EV. I am still 8th after 2nd EotLQ, however I will be doing the last DM's Mark this weekend, so we'll see. I think I'll have along the same order of GP as you (Though I do have a small hit to my EV due to something which I cannot mention). If this wasn't in a DM's Mark, I think I know what you mean and I feel your pain. I too took a small hit to my EV.
JJeff 07-16-07, 08:57 PM	Oh my, it would seem you were convinced to part with your money without a fight. I don't know if my players would do the same, they might just charge into their deaths than part with their money. Of course, knowing my guys, I may actually have a suicide to engineer...
Harliquinn 07-16-07, 09:03 PM	Considering who my character is, it was an easy choice :) It's not that big of a deal to matter in the long run.
Marcus Majarra 07-17-07, 01:59 AM	Oh my, it would seem you were convinced to part with your money without a fight. Well, we happened to get lucky with money in that mod, so it all balanced out in the end. And I agree with Harliquinn. The loss is not a big deal, all things considered. We still turned a profit!
Frobi-Wan Kenobi 07-17-07, 11:10 AM	I'm curious now. I missed only DM's Marks 2&3 on my BW character and was level 3 with less than 5kgp at the last level bump. None of my others were even close. So, as I've said, I started at level 4/5kgp this time around. For Frobi-Wan, Marcus, Harliquinn, and/or anyone else who would care to answer. If you remember, where were your characters at the last level bump? My main was at 4th level and the rest were at 3rd I'm not sure on their EVs but I think that even the 3rd levels were above the bump in gold.
Zantumal_Waveharp 07-19-07, 04:07 PM	I have beat the bump with my BWC Warmage, But all the others seem to have no hope at this time... Too many modules to get in before the bump.:weep: Just looked again last night, and my Codex Changling Wizard is going to beat the bump as well.
Kelvane 07-24-07, 01:31 AM	My Cabal rogue is level 8, 28,000 ev. with only Exp 4 to be reported yet. I expect a big ev boost from this one the way things turned out.
JJeff 07-24-07, 04:26 AM	I wonder, can a character hit level 8 without DM marks?
Harliquinn 07-24-07, 07:46 AM	Without the DM's Marks? Only if they played both Expeditions and both Lich Queen's, and even then it's not guaranteed. It's about 2 adventures / level. I can confirm that with only 3 Faction Mods and 3 DM's Marks that you can hit 7th.
Madfox11 07-24-07, 11:51 AM	Well, my BWC character went from level 4 to 6 in the 3 faction adventures. Would he really need 3 DMs marks for the next level? Mind you, I don't expect him to make the bump. There are no BWC adventures in the make before the level bump after all...
Harliquinn 07-24-07, 12:39 PM	Was he 4th from the level bump last time? If so, then I am surprised you made it to 6th from 3. Then again I guess it's obviously possible.
Marcus Majarra 07-24-07, 12:42 PM	I wonder, can a character hit level 8 without DM marks? I'd say yes, albeit barely, and only if you've played through every adventure available before the last level bump.
Istaran 07-24-07, 02:22 PM	I've just beaten the level bump by 30gp (and some fraction of a leve), been bumped last time, and having played only one DM's mark. I still have 2 parts of Eyes of the Lich Queen to go before the bump, so I'm expecting to hit 8 before the bump if I'm lucky. My other two chars are both in line for a 2-level bump. (maybe 1, depending on this coming Saturday's results.)
Madfox11 07-25-07, 08:58 AM	Was he 4th from the level bump last time? If so, then I am surprised you made it to 6th from 3. Then again I guess it's obviously possible. I hadn't played him before the level bump, so yes, he was 4th with no additional xp. I was surprised as well...
Timlagor 07-28-07, 10:18 PM	I believe the DM Marks do give lower rewards than the faction mods. You are probably only just 6th and would be just short of 7th from the first two DMMs. You might just squeak over the line to 7th with two DMMs but I doubt it (think you can get about 2,500xp from each ..though it might also be something like 2,000, 2,500 and 3,000 with the later ones giving more).
Madfox11 07-30-07, 07:29 AM	I believe the DM Marks do give lower rewards than the faction mods. You are probably only just 6th and would be just short of 7th from the first two DMMs. You might just squeak over the line to 7th with two DMMs but I doubt it (think you can get about 2,500xp from each ..though it might also be something like 2,000, 2,500 and 3,000 with the later ones giving more). If the EV values of the DMG are used I doubt he is just 6th level, since he already had the EV of a 6th level before playing that DMs mark. In the end though: who cares? ;) If my goal was to beat the level kick I should have played more often.
Lilinthra 07-30-07, 09:17 AM	My primary character is 7th level (around mid-level?) with a hair over 20.5k gp.
Timlagor 07-30-07, 09:57 PM	Anyone hit 7th level with 19,000gp or more? All my characters seemed to have about 18000 except for one who had a Story Object that says "you have been granted an EV bonus" which presumably was included since it didn't tell me how much. The DMG gp for 7th level is 19000...
JJeff 07-30-07, 10:51 PM	My players that have played Factional 4-6 + EXP 4 are at Level 6, I think Those that ALSO played Eyes of the Lich Queen are at Lvl 7 with 21k EV or something close to that.
Lilinthra 07-31-07, 07:55 AM	Anyone hit 7th level with 19,000gp or more? All my characters seemed to have about 18000 except for one who had a Story Object that says "you have been granted an EV bonus" which presumably was included since it didn't tell me how much. The DMG gp for 7th level is 19000... No, I originally hit 7th level with 17940gp
Harliquinn 07-31-07, 08:28 AM	All my non-primary characters (Those that played Faction 4-6, DM's 4-6 only) all reached 7th but with only about 18k-18.5k gp.
Kelvane 08-01-07, 03:01 AM	My Cabal rogue is level 8, Ev 28800. EXP-4 was mistakinly reported to my Codex character. So if fixed I may hit Level 9, EV 31-32000. This character has played everything.
Timlagor 08-01-07, 07:33 AM	Looks like you fall steadily further and further behind the gold curve as you level up. I imagine this is because the rewards for each module are fixed and they are all based on level 4 xp/gp ratios. I'm not sure this can easily be fixed but it should definitely be looked at because the recommended xp/gp ratio changes increasingly rapidly as you go up. (good thing we have Story Objects and APs to compensate ;) ..not to mention all those nice overpowered options)
Marcia_S 08-01-07, 07:53 PM	I've played everything available with my Cabal character and am 8th level with 33k EV. My other characters are further behind at 6th/18k, 6th/13k, and 5th/10k, which isn't actually that bad, as they've all either started or re-started since I played the 4th faction mods and I haven't been able to play all of the mods available for them. Marcia
lseelba 08-02-07, 12:11 AM	I only play one faction, but after all is said and done, my Covenant character is Level 7 with 20,500. When she first hit 7 I think she had about 18K. I've played everything I could (online) except Lich Queen 2 (couldn't find a DM) and CoL 4 (I was on vacation). -Lou
Harliquinn 08-06-07, 03:24 PM	Well my main character (Codex) didn't hit 9th, as one of my DM's Marks didn't get credited correctly. I've been working with Chris and the DM to get it invalidated and re-recorded but playing middleman hasn't gone so well and the right information hasn't gotten to the right people yet. I hope they one day let Lead GM for an event invalidate it so that it can be fixed, particularly close to level bumps and other database blackouts. Chris has been great in getting back with me, but there are still problems getting the info where it needs to go. My other characters all hit 7th but none were above the GP bump. John
Garden_State_Gamer 08-06-07, 05:01 PM	I know two of my Cabal players hit 8th. They ran the characters through both parts of Lich Queen, and all the eligible expeditions and marks. As for me, my Covenant of Light character beat the gold cap by 500 gp, but it still 7th.
Kelvane 08-08-07, 02:40 AM	Well my Cabal character was fixed and finished lvl 8, 31775 E.V.
Harliquinn 08-09-07, 02:38 PM	WOOT! Today is a happy day. Apparently my appeal went through (Thanks to Chris Tulach for his help) and my Crimson Codex character is now 9th level with 33,050gp! I have played all available modules with that character. John
Garden_State_Gamer 08-09-07, 03:32 PM	Congrats 'Quin. You'll be well past the next kick in no time. Note to self -- 1. Avoid running any CC mods for a Human Copper Dragon Shaman named Rachisk 2. Make sure to play in any CC mods with a Human Copper Dragon Shaman named Rachisk.
Harliquinn 08-09-07, 04:25 PM	Thanks! I really enjoy my Dragon Shaman. He's never the 'OMG you did how much damage?' character, but he can hold his own. He certainly isn't 'optimized' (I mean I took education at 1st level and most of my skill points go into Knowledges), but he is fun to roleplay. I'm thinking of changing some of his planned progression with the inclusion of Complete Champion now (The Knowledge Devotion would be perfect for him). It was my Cabal character that actually 'beat' the GP cap, while my BWC and CoL were about 750 and 500 below it.
Saski 08-12-07, 08:54 AM	WOOT! Today is a happy day. Apparently my appeal went through (Thanks to Chris Tulach for his help) and my Crimson Codex character is now 9th level with 33,050gp! I have played all available modules with that character. John Who did you talk to?/How did you get this fixed? I have played every single mod, but I have an Eyes of the Lich Queen that is not reporting, and an older Expedition that I noticed today was not in my official log as well. I am guessing that I am exceptionally close to the 9th level mark as I am only about 3000 gold behind most of the people here on the boards. (I'm actually only... 1000 gold behind what you posted, so I know I'm close. /cry) Hell, I'd be willing to play with my current gold regardless, if I got to get to 9th level for that oh so important casting level. =/
Harliquinn 08-12-07, 09:09 AM	I spoke with Chris Tulach, though that isn't the usual chain of command and I hated to bother him directly. I hope he gets a raise :)
Evanta 08-13-07, 10:32 AM	It seriously sucks that due to a story object, and the fact that my character's EV is still in limbo (the reporting error has not been rectified), I have LESS than the 19k EV for a starting character. Might as well just retire my current character to get more EV, the story objects I have gotten so far are not sufficient to compensate the loss. Or perhaps just quit XE altogether. That's a thought...
lseelba 08-14-07, 07:51 PM	It seriously sucks that due to a story object, and the fact that my character's EV is still in limbo (the reporting error has not been rectified), I have LESS than the 19k EV for a starting character. Might as well just retire my current character to get more EV, the story objects I have gotten so far are not sufficient to compensate the loss. Or perhaps just quit XE altogether. That's a thought... You can't get more EV by retiring your character. When the level bump happens, your EV will be bumped if you are below 19K.