A savage progression for a Titan? [Archive] - Wizards Community

A savage progression for a Titan? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Einvaldurinn_mikli
08-31-07, 03:13 PM I was wondering, is there a savage progression for the Titan anywhere? Or for that matter, just an ECL?
rob_douglas
09-04-07, 11:02 AM No progression. ECL I have is pre-Savage Species, but should be close enough to work with: ECL 30 from Dragon 293, March 2002.

That is a +10 LA.

ROB
Einvaldurinn_mikli
09-04-07, 01:26 PM No progression. ECL I have is pre-Savage Species, but should be close enough to work with: ECL 30 from Dragon 293, March 2002.

That is a +10 LA.

ROB

Ok. I estimated it at 30 ECL actually, and made my own savage progression. It has(the savage progression) 24HD though, and thus only a LA of +6. Nice to see the ECL was correct though.
rob_douglas
09-04-07, 06:34 PM Well, if you add 4 HD, then it should be ECL 34. I don't see where you are getting the 24HD. Titan has 20HD in 3.0 and 3.5. The above ECL assumes 3.0 and 20HD, but is still probably right, considering the ability score increases.

ROB
Einvaldurinn_mikli
09-04-07, 07:12 PM Well, if you add 4 HD, then it should be ECL 34. I don't see where you are getting the 24HD. Titan has 20HD in 3.0 and 3.5. The above ECL assumes 3.0 and 20HD, but is still probably right, considering the ability score increases.

ROB

No no, I added the HD to my custom made savage progression and reduced the level adjustment instead, keeping the ECL 30. I know this makes the progression more powerful and that was intended. The ECL system in 3.5 doesn't work. Not as presented. You have to pay for any neat abilities you get from your race twice, once with racial HD, and those are usually pretty bad and again with LA. I'm trying to combat that effect. Looking at the numbers on the Titan progression I made, it seems to be balanced. I am also thinking about adding in a clause that makes people with LA count as their ECL for things like Blasphemy and Cloudkill, because getting killed by a mook killer is no fun at all.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Einvaldurinn_mikli 08-31-07, 03:13 PM	I was wondering, is there a savage progression for the Titan anywhere? Or for that matter, just an ECL?
rob_douglas 09-04-07, 11:02 AM	No progression. ECL I have is pre-Savage Species, but should be close enough to work with: ECL 30 from Dragon 293, March 2002. That is a +10 LA. ROB
Einvaldurinn_mikli 09-04-07, 01:26 PM	No progression. ECL I have is pre-Savage Species, but should be close enough to work with: ECL 30 from Dragon 293, March 2002. That is a +10 LA. ROB Ok. I estimated it at 30 ECL actually, and made my own savage progression. It has(the savage progression) 24HD though, and thus only a LA of +6. Nice to see the ECL was correct though.
rob_douglas 09-04-07, 06:34 PM	Well, if you add 4 HD, then it should be ECL 34. I don't see where you are getting the 24HD. Titan has 20HD in 3.0 and 3.5. The above ECL assumes 3.0 and 20HD, but is still probably right, considering the ability score increases. ROB
Einvaldurinn_mikli 09-04-07, 07:12 PM	Well, if you add 4 HD, then it should be ECL 34. I don't see where you are getting the 24HD. Titan has 20HD in 3.0 and 3.5. The above ECL assumes 3.0 and 20HD, but is still probably right, considering the ability score increases. ROB No no, I added the HD to my custom made savage progression and reduced the level adjustment instead, keeping the ECL 30. I know this makes the progression more powerful and that was intended. The ECL system in 3.5 doesn't work. Not as presented. You have to pay for any neat abilities you get from your race twice, once with racial HD, and those are usually pretty bad and again with LA. I'm trying to combat that effect. Looking at the numbers on the Titan progression I made, it seems to be balanced. I am also thinking about adding in a clause that makes people with LA count as their ECL for things like Blasphemy and Cloudkill, because getting killed by a mook killer is no fun at all.