Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Grandmaster_Kane 01-25-07, 11:45 AM	I (Drow male Ne 30 epic barbarian/ 10 frenzied berserker/ 5 reaping mauler) and my friends (25 Evocker/ 20 cleric/ 5 archmage) ( 30 necromancer/ 15 sorecer/ 15 cleric) & (30 fighter / 10 kensai) have been attempting to take down a iron collouse(sp?) but so far have remained pretty unsuccesful Does anybody have any ideas on how we could take it down? (We have even defeated and avatar of azuth)
Witch 01-25-07, 11:49 AM	Epic Spells.
Grandmaster_Kane 01-25-07, 11:53 AM	I mean besides epic spells -.- I dont feel like going throu a ton of hellball and vengeful gaze of god spells
Witch 01-25-07, 12:01 PM	That wasn't the type I was talking about. I was talking more about buff spells, such as wards against the antimagic effect.
Grandmaster_Kane 01-25-07, 12:19 PM	oh cool any you have in mine of should i wing it?
Loren Pechtel 01-25-07, 12:24 PM	Bombard it with elemental attacks.
bluemage55 01-25-07, 01:17 PM	Fly above it, and drop large boulders until it dies.
Grandmaster_Kane 01-26-07, 07:08 AM	i could but i dont think the boulders would be large enough lol Maybe i should get Athrogate here to own it whiul under buff and improved invisibility spells
saucercrab 01-27-07, 12:19 PM	I (Drow male Ne 30 epic barbarian/ 10 frenzied berserker/ 5 reaping mauler) and my friends (25 Evocker/ 20 cleric/ 5 archmage) ( 30 necromancer/ 15 sorecer/ 15 cleric) & (30 fighter / 10 kensai) have been attempting to take down a iron collouse(sp?) but so far have remained pretty unsuccesful Does anybody have any ideas on how we could take it down? (We have even defeated and avatar of azuth)Have the evoker shapechange into a ghaele eladrin, shift into energy globe form, fly high above the IC (outside of its AMF), & shoot lasers down on it (touch-attack, extraordinary lasers). Have the necromancer scry on the battle from far away, while you & the kensai can sip lemonade & watch via the scrying.
Grandmaster_Kane 01-27-07, 04:06 PM	lmao im gonna do that
bluemage55 01-27-07, 09:34 PM	i could but i dont think the boulders would be large enough lol Sure they are. And they do more damage if you're higher up. 20d6 damge is not unreasonable at all, and you could just keep dropping them.
Loren Pechtel 01-28-07, 12:13 AM	i could but i dont think the boulders would be large enough lol Maybe i should get Athrogate here to own it whiul under buff and improved invisibility spells You don't even need boulders. Fly 150' up. (To be sure of clearing it's antimagic field.) Take a bunch of acid flasks. Start dropping them. You're going against it's AC0 touch AC rather than the AC60 a weapon would need. You'll need about 150 hits to drop it. 160 shots will probably do this as you will probably only miss on a 1. The only two problems are if it can outrun you or if it can get to someplace where you can't drop stuff on it.
svaden 02-02-07, 08:02 PM	its very simple, you are epic characters, the smallest of which is a level 40... cmon.. aquire a sphere of annihilation, touch the thing with it (cast a gate spell, calling the collossus through, and into contact with the sphere) oh, and as for the boulder dropping.... once again, you are epic... mountains are boulders too
Roivas 02-05-07, 12:23 AM	Just grab the damn thing and throw it into space. All you have to do is figure out how much Str you need to lift it's impressive 350,000 pounds. I would recommend an epic spell that ups your strength, then rage, frenzy, and anything else you can to boost that score and try to throw it into orbit. A level or two of legendary dreadnought couldn't hurt though. If you can win the needed check to pick it up the problem should be over, just aim for the sun.
Yodasatomicweed 02-05-07, 07:48 AM	Well, if you're Colossal, with a Strength score of 50, a heavy load for you is 409,600 pounds.
Charles082986 02-05-07, 11:02 AM	Speaking of which, exactly how would you go about throwing someone into orbit? I can't find any tables for STR->Distance Thrown, or any other means to calculate distance thrown ,aside from the "Thrown Weapons have a Maxium of 5 Range Incriments". The problem then becomes "How do you determine the range incriments?" Just asking, because this would help me deal with the CE Psion NPC we're fighting who keeps using some power that rips out parts of our brains. Ressurrection bills are getting expensive.
Loren Pechtel 02-05-07, 01:20 PM	Just grab the damn thing and throw it into space. All you have to do is figure out how much Str you need to lift it's impressive 350,000 pounds. I would recommend an epic spell that ups your strength, then rage, frenzy, and anything else you can to boost that score and try to throw it into orbit. A level or two of legendary dreadnought couldn't hurt though. If you can win the needed check to pick it up the problem should be over, just aim for the sun. You're inside an anti-magic field.
Loren Pechtel 02-05-07, 01:29 PM	Speaking of which, exactly how would you go about throwing someone into orbit? I can't find any tables for STR->Distance Thrown, or any other means to calculate distance thrown ,aside from the "Thrown Weapons have a Maxium of 5 Range Incriments". The problem then becomes "How do you determine the range incriments?" Just asking, because this would help me deal with the CE Psion NPC we're fighting who keeps using some power that rips out parts of our brains. Ressurrection bills are getting expensive. Well, quite some time ago we had a thread on all sorts of impossibilities. I worked out shooting an arrow into orbit based on figuring the strength needed to pull a bow that gave that kind of launch velocity. IIRC it was in the 50's. You can launch something much faster with a bow than by hand so the required strength is higher. My approach to figuring it would be to scale up from throwing an object. See what strength leads to what launch velocity. Scale it up from there. It's going to be awfully high.
Witch 02-05-07, 01:43 PM	You're inside an anti-magic field. Epic spells can function in antimagic fields.
PhaedrusXY 02-06-07, 04:41 PM	Instantaneous Conjuration Effects can function inside Antimagic Fields. So Fly over it, and hit it with Melf's Acid Arrows until it dies.
Uberman 02-20-07, 02:17 AM	Wild Shape into the biggest, strongest thing you can, cast Wall of Iron, pick up the wall of Iron, and beat it to death from 120 feet away. No, but seriously the dropping rocks on it idea is the easiest.. and practically fool-proof. I hate Epic Spells.
strifearcanelord 02-20-07, 12:20 PM	Frenzy and kill it pretty simple your character is a 45th level Frenzied berserker, Bab of 32 or so, str while raging and frenzied at least, 40, 22 str +18 while rage frenzy but really i would assume your strength has got to be higher than that. so minumum attack is 47, should be able to hit a few times, or just power attack full, and roll for 20s should be able to kill it in four hits that way with the +128 damage you get from powerattack, have cleric true res you afterwards. this should be very simple with a party in the 40s i mean the things a CR 33
Elessar Lespin 02-21-07, 12:07 AM	Make some rust larvae arrows instead of the rust larvae wand found in Complete Scoundrel. Or summon a bunch of rust monsters to attack it while you keep it distracted with a good diversion.
FrostHammer 02-21-07, 12:54 AM	What is an Iron collouse and which MM can I find it in? If AMF or SR is the problem, just fly over the field and hit it with orbs of fire/sonic/acid/whatever until it dies.
Witch 02-21-07, 03:05 AM	It can be found in the Epic Level Handbook, or the Epic SRD (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/monsters/colossus.htm). But yes, those orbs are one of the ways of attacking a colossus.
BlazeingWyrm 02-23-07, 02:03 AM	My group took the drop boulders on it to a new level when fighting one of these. They called down a meteor to destroy it, used wish and make specifications to the size of the meteor. This didn't go over too well as it destroyed the continent they were on, but it worked.(After calling it they plane shifted. And no none of them are good.) Here's the other ways that almost worked: ~Grabbing adamantine greatswords and using a max power attack many times to bypass the damage reduction. Make sure the person doing this has a high fortitude save and has used all non-magical means of becoming immune to poison.(You'll only hit on a natural 20, however when they tried each hit dealt around 50 damage after DR, they gave up after the two melee fighters died) ~Dig a huge hole, big enough to fit it and then some, around 1000ft deep. Then change all of the walls in the hole to iron, preferably around 10+ feet. Push the Colossus into the hole and put all the dirt back in.(they stopped after it kept succeding on it's Reflex save to avoid this) ~Various very unsucessful attempts to send it into space or the bottom of the ocean.
Chaotis 02-23-07, 10:43 PM	Throw it at the sun into a sphere of annil. while throwing boulders and Ghaelie lasers at it and having the rest of the party watching through scrying and sipping lemonade :mymy: Okay, seriously, barring the compiled methods above, there are... "creative" ways of dealing with it. After somehow removing it's AMF... 1) Polymorph: change it into a pile of iron bars, and its other material components. Make a new Iron Colossus under your control. 2) Rust: Self explanatory. 3) See the Uber-er Charger. If it works on the Deities, it should work on an IC. 4) Iron melts: Use every fire spell known to man. More as I think of them.
thompsja 02-24-07, 04:15 PM	Can you use wish to get rid of the antimagic field for, oh, a few rounds? Then hit it with a maximized, even better, intensified disintegrate, while the others are hitting it. Use contingency to have a bunch of spells holding for the one round that it doesn't have antimagic. Looking closer at the description, can't you just dispel magic on the antimagic field, and knock it down for a round? A couple times should be all that's necessary.
Alder_Fiter_Galaz 02-25-07, 03:26 PM	Use epic spells to bypass the antimagic field. Note that the colossus like any other golem is inmune to almost all magic. Use the spells in the vicitiny of the collosus to affect the enviroment to your advantage. I not remember the spell the iron collosi are vulnerable though. Attack all at once. Use the boulders previously mentioned (or similar heavy things) to attack from afar if necessary to avoid the special abilities of the colossus. Do not use rust monters, iron collosi are totally inmune to rust. Use weapons against constructs or golems.