Boots of Swiftness question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Boots of Swiftness question [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Hand of Vecna
03-30-07, 10:46 AM While wearing these, "The wearer’s speed doubles (this does not stack with any magical or supernatural enhancement to speed)."

What about Ex enhancements to speed, like that gained by a Barbarian or Dervish (PrC from CW)?

And which is applied first? The class bonus, or the item bonus?

Wearing these, would a Human Barbarian's speed be (30+10)x2 = 80 feet, or (30x2)+10 = 70 feet? Would a Human Dervish's speed be (30+15)x2 = 90 feet, or (30x2)+15 = 75 feet?
NoldorForce
03-30-07, 10:54 AM It appears that they would indeed stack. WotC's precedent for determining the order of effects in cases where that order might be relevant is to do things in the order most beneficial to the effect's controller. Thus, you'd add the extraordinary (nonmagical) bonus before applying the doubling.
rob_douglas
03-30-07, 11:22 AM The Boots should be updated to 3.5 to provide Continuous Haste. Their price also drastically changed in 3.5 due to the change in skill point costs. These were never updated either. See the discussion here:

SRD revision (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=702299)
If you go to the first page of that thread, and see the Magic Items #2, Bluemage has updated it, but the discussion started on page 2 & 3.

ROB
Hand of Vecna
03-30-07, 11:25 AM Innnnteresting... thanks!
summerstar
10-20-07, 01:09 AM Innnnteresting... thanks!

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Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Hand of Vecna 03-30-07, 10:46 AM	While wearing these, "The wearer’s speed doubles (this does not stack with any magical or supernatural enhancement to speed)." What about Ex enhancements to speed, like that gained by a Barbarian or Dervish (PrC from CW)? And which is applied first? The class bonus, or the item bonus? Wearing these, would a Human Barbarian's speed be (30+10)x2 = 80 feet, or (30x2)+10 = 70 feet? Would a Human Dervish's speed be (30+15)x2 = 90 feet, or (30x2)+15 = 75 feet?
NoldorForce 03-30-07, 10:54 AM	It appears that they would indeed stack. WotC's precedent for determining the order of effects in cases where that order might be relevant is to do things in the order most beneficial to the effect's controller. Thus, you'd add the extraordinary (nonmagical) bonus before applying the doubling.
rob_douglas 03-30-07, 11:22 AM	The Boots should be updated to 3.5 to provide Continuous Haste. Their price also drastically changed in 3.5 due to the change in skill point costs. These were never updated either. See the discussion here: SRD revision (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=702299) If you go to the first page of that thread, and see the Magic Items #2, Bluemage has updated it, but the discussion started on page 2 & 3. ROB
Hand of Vecna 03-30-07, 11:25 AM	Innnnteresting... thanks!
summerstar 10-20-07, 01:09 AM	Innnnteresting... thanks! /bump