Epic Counterspell [Archive] - Wizards Community

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instag8or19

01-30-08, 02:47 AM
I was looking at Epic Counterspell, and I'm a bit fuzzy on when you can counterspell....

Epic Counterspell

Prerequisite: Spellcraft 30 ranks, Combat Reflexes, Improved Counterspell, Improved Initiative, Quicken Spell, Reactive Counterspell

Benefit: Any number of times per round, you can counterspell an opponent's spell even if you have not readied an action to do so. Such a counterspell doesn't count against your later actions for the round. You can even use this feat when flat-footed.

...Does this mean you counterspell without using an action....or is it like an AOO type thing since the prereqs include combat reflexes, or is it like an immediate action type thing since you can use it at anytime....

Also if you have this feat would you even need Opportunity Counterspell

Please someone clear this up....
andinel

01-30-08, 03:33 AM
You always counterspell without using an action. The only difference is that this Feat lets you counterspell without taking a Ready Action on your turn, which you normally would be able to do.
instag8or19

01-30-08, 04:24 AM
Are you sure...I looked at the PHB 3.5 and it says under counterspell...

To complete the action (the readied action), you must then cast the correct spell. As a
general rule, a spell can only counter itself.

So your casting a spell to counter another....doesnt it take the regular casting time of the spell to counter in order to cast it....or can you as a standard action cast any spell they cast in order to counter it?...
Starmage21

01-30-08, 08:08 AM
I was looking at Epic Counterspell, and I'm a bit fuzzy on when you can counterspell....

Epic Counterspell

Prerequisite: Spellcraft 30 ranks, Combat Reflexes, Improved Counterspell, Improved Initiative, Quicken Spell, Reactive Counterspell

Benefit: Any number of times per round, you can counterspell an opponent's spell even if you have not readied an action to do so. Such a counterspell doesn't count against your later actions for the round. You can even use this feat when flat-footed.

...Does this mean you counterspell without using an action....or is it like an AOO type thing since the prereqs include combat reflexes, or is it like an immediate action type thing since you can use it at anytime....

Also if you have this feat would you even need Opportunity Counterspell

Please someone clear this up....

The intent of the feat was to give you the ability to counterspell for free as a reaction, rather than using up a ready action. It doesnt have to say specifically that you can counterspell as a reaction simply because the FR feat Reactive Counterspell is one of it's prerequisites(and it allows you to do so, but it costs you an action to counterspell).