Epic Sleight of Hand [Archive] - Wizards Community

Epic Sleight of Hand [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
OregonRnr
02-17-07, 03:06 PM Could an epic-level character steal someone's soul with a sleight of hand check?

If so, what would the DC be?

Thanks in advance.
Thor_axe_impaler
02-17-07, 05:49 PM Now this is an interesting proposition. Even if there was a physical object to steal... what would it be put into?

And think of the person being stolen from... one minute your talking with a nice enough looking halfling, and next you realize that the escence that makes you sentient is gone.
bluemage55
02-17-07, 08:40 PM No, you cannot. Sleight of Hand explicitly tells you what you can steal, and anything else cannot be stolen.
NoldorForce
02-17-07, 11:24 PM A soul is too abstract to be stolen, unless you had a class ability that explicitly allowed it. Even then, a save might be more appropriate - based either on Dexterity or Charisma (as with SLAs).

In a rather absurd discussion, someone had pegged the DC to steal your own pants without noticing at 120. At high or epic levels, Sleight of Hand is also useful for grabbing stuff out of pockets and putting it back without needing to take move actions, considering the ability to perform "minor feats of legerdermain".
Tequila_Sunrise
02-17-07, 11:27 PM Hahahahahahaha
Grandmaster_Kane
02-20-07, 04:01 PM no but if your char had i dunno and gautlet of the soul wrangerler then maybe lik dc 95
Gemcaster
02-23-07, 04:30 AM What would the dc be to take a paladins fullplate armour while he is still wearing it, without him and a crowd of say 40 people in a tavern seeing it?
bluemage55
02-23-07, 11:12 AM What would the dc be to take a paladins fullplate armour while he is still wearing it, without him and a crowd of say 40 people in a tavern seeing it?

Again, you cannot do that because it is not permitted by the skill description.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
OregonRnr 02-17-07, 03:06 PM	Could an epic-level character steal someone's soul with a sleight of hand check? If so, what would the DC be? Thanks in advance.
Thor_axe_impaler 02-17-07, 05:49 PM	Now this is an interesting proposition. Even if there was a physical object to steal... what would it be put into? And think of the person being stolen from... one minute your talking with a nice enough looking halfling, and next you realize that the escence that makes you sentient is gone.
bluemage55 02-17-07, 08:40 PM	No, you cannot. Sleight of Hand explicitly tells you what you can steal, and anything else cannot be stolen.
NoldorForce 02-17-07, 11:24 PM	A soul is too abstract to be stolen, unless you had a class ability that explicitly allowed it. Even then, a save might be more appropriate - based either on Dexterity or Charisma (as with SLAs). In a rather absurd discussion, someone had pegged the DC to steal your own pants without noticing at 120. At high or epic levels, Sleight of Hand is also useful for grabbing stuff out of pockets and putting it back without needing to take move actions, considering the ability to perform "minor feats of legerdermain".
Tequila_Sunrise 02-17-07, 11:27 PM	Hahahahahahaha
Grandmaster_Kane 02-20-07, 04:01 PM	no but if your char had i dunno and gautlet of the soul wrangerler then maybe lik dc 95
Gemcaster 02-23-07, 04:30 AM	What would the dc be to take a paladins fullplate armour while he is still wearing it, without him and a crowd of say 40 people in a tavern seeing it?
bluemage55 02-23-07, 11:12 AM	What would the dc be to take a paladins fullplate armour while he is still wearing it, without him and a crowd of say 40 people in a tavern seeing it? Again, you cannot do that because it is not permitted by the skill description.