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rob_douglas 04-21-07, 12:26 AM	HI I put together a list of feats that are no available at 21st level, as part of feat planning, and I thought the list might be useful to others. It looks at feats in a slightly different way - so you can see what level opponent you need to proved to give him Epic Dodge, for instance, so I think it helps DMs. Now there are a lot at level 22, but effectively I think they are really 23, as I can only see one way in the core to get a second epic feat at 22nd level, and that is as a fighter, so other than Epic Weapon Specialization and Devastating Critical, all the 22s should really be 23. Most are limited based on required ranks in a skill, but some require another epic feat be taken first, and that means they can't be taken until someone gets a second epic feat (as I said, no earlier than 22nd, though more likely 23rd). Here is the list Epic Feats with Required Level > 21 Level Feat 22 Colossal Wild Shape (requires Gargantuan Wild Shape) 22 Devastating Critical (requires Overwhelming Critical) 22 Fine Wild Shape (requires Diminutive Wild Shape) 22 Epic Weapon Specialization (requires Epic Weapon Focus) 22 Epic Trapfinding 22 Ignore Material Components 22 Improved Combat Casting 22 Lasting Inspiration 22 Permanent Emanation 22 Ranged Inspiration 22 Rapid Inspiration 22 Shattering Strike 22 Spell Opportunity 22 Spontaneous Spell 22 Terrifying Rage 22 Vorpal Strike (requires Keen Strike) 22 Zone of Animation (requires Undead Mastery) 23 Craft Epic Wondrous Item 24 Automatic Still Spell 24 Hindering Song 24 Magical Beast Wild Shape 25 Craft Epic Arms and Armor 27 Automatic Quicken Spell 27 Death of Enemies 27 Dragon Wild Shape 27 Epic Dodge 27 Epic Inspiration 27 Group Inspiration 27 Improved Metamagic 27 Inspire Excellence 27 Intensify Spell 27 Legendary Commander 27 Legendary Tracker 27 Music of the Gods 27 Reactive Countersong 27 Self-Concealment 27 Spontaneous Domain Acces 29 Craft Epic Rod 32 Craft Epic Staff 32 Forge Epic Ring An interesting note is that there are few feats with level requirements above 30th level. From this I assume there is a lot of room for more powerful feats that require ranks and therefore levels even higher - and which would have much more powerful effects as a result. Also note how Crafting is pushed away from the PCs until much higher levels. This is important in finding levels at which to assume items even exist. If there are no 32nd level characters in your world, then they didn't make any Epic Rings either....You need a different reason for those. Hope it helps someone. ROB
Balthanon 04-24-07, 09:21 AM	Now there are a lot at level 22, but effectively I think they are really 23, as I can only see one way in the core to get a second epic feat at 22nd level, and that is as a fighter, so other than Epic Weapon Specialization and Devastating Critical, all the 22s should really be 23. Most are limited based on required ranks in a skill, but some require another epic feat be taken first, and that means they can't be taken until someone gets a second epic feat (as I said, no earlier than 22nd, though more likely 23rd). I believe technically, a Loremaster who times it right can acquire an epic feat at 22 using the secret that grants a feat (so long as he hasn't used it pre-epic and hasn't maxed out the class.) And if you go outside of Core, there are a few other methods-- Ardente Dilletante for example.