starting wealth for characters over level 40 [Archive] - Wizards Community

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RazielK

01-11-07, 09:47 AM		Does anybody know if there is a pattern to figure out the starting cash a level 40+ character has? My friend has a group where they are starting as level 55 characters and, well, the amount of money is absent from the guide. We tried to guess what the pattern was, the only thing we THINK we have is that every 5 levels the amount of money increase by 200000 I believe.

Can anyone help?
Aluroon

01-11-07, 11:41 AM		NPC Wealth by Level:

31 - 630,000
32 - 690,000
33 - 760,000
34 - 840,000
35 - 920,000
36 - 1,010,000
37 - 1,110,000
38 - 1,220,000
39 - 1,340,000
40 - 1,470,000
41 - 1,620,000
42 - 1,780,000
43 - 1,960,000
44 - 2,160,000
45 - 2,380,000
46 - 2,620,000
47 - 2,880,000
48 - 3,170,000
49 - 3,490,000
50 - 3,840,000
51 - 4,220,000
52 - 4,640,000
53 - 5,100,000
54 - 5,610,000
55 - 6,170,000
56 - 6,790,000
57 - 7,470,000
58 - 8,220,000
59 - 9,040,000
60 - 9,940,000
61 - 10,930,000
62 - 12,020,000
63 - 13,220,000
64 - 14,540,000
65 - 15,990,000
66 - 17,590,000
67 - 19,350,000
68 - 21,290,000
69 - 23,420,000
70 - 25,760,000
71 - 28,340,000
72 - 31,170,000
73 - 34,290,000
74 - 37,720,000
75 - 41,490,000
76 - 45,640,000
77 - 50,200,000
78 - 55,220,000
79 - 60,740,000
80 - 66,810,000
81 - 73,490,000
82 - 80,840,000
83 - 88,920,000
84 - 97,810,000
85 - 107,590,000
86 - 118,350,000
87 - 130,190,000
88 - 143,210,000
89 - 157,530,000
90 - 173,280,000
91 - 190,610,000
92 - 209,670,000
93 - 230,640,000
94 - 253,700,000
95 - 279,070,000
96 - 306,980,000
97 - 337,680,000
98 - 371,450,000
99 - 408,600,000
100 - 449,460,000

PC Wealth

31st 4,900,000 gp
32nd 5,600,000 gp
33rd 6,300,000 gp
34th 7,000,000 gp
35th 7,900,000 gp
36th 8,800,000 gp
37th 9,900,000 gp
38th 11,000,000 gp
39th 12,300,000 gp
40th 13,600,000 gp
--------------------------------my extrapolation from here down
41st 15,100,000 gp
42nd 17,000,000 gp <---- rounded to nearest 1,000,000
43rd 19,000,000 gp
44th 21,000,000 gp
45th 23,000,000 gp
46th 25,000,000 gp
47th 28,000,000 gp
48th 31,000,000 gp
49th 34,000,000 gp
50th 38,000,000 gp
51st 42,000,000 gp
52nd 46,000,000 gp
53rd 51,000,000 gp
54th 56,000,000 gp
55th 62,000,000 gp
56th 68,000,000 gp
57th 75,000,000 gp
58th 82,000,000 gp
59th 91,000,000 gp
60th 100,000,000 gp
61st 110,000,000 gp
62nd 121,000,000 gp
63rd 134,000,000 gp
64th 147,000,000 gp
65th 162,000,000 gp
66th 180,000,000 gp <---- rounded to nearest 10,000,000
67th 200,000,000 gp
68th 220,000,000 gp
69th 240,000,000 gp
70th 260,000,000 gp
71st 290,000,000 gp
72nd 320,000,000 gp
73rd 350,000,000 gp
74th 380,000,000 gp
75th 420,000,000 gp
76th 460,000,000 gp
77th 510,000,000 gp
78th 560,000,000 gp
79th 620,000,000 gp
80th 680,000,000 gp
81st 750,000,000 gp
82nd 820,000,000 gp
83rd 910,000,000 gp
84th 1,000,000,000 gp
85th 1,100,000,000 gp
86th 1,210,000,000 gp
87th 1,330,000,000 gp
88th 1,460,000,000 gp
89th 1,610,000,000 gp
90th 1,770,000,000 gp
91st 1,900,000,000 gp <---- rounded to nearest 100,000,000
92nd 2,100,000,000 gp
93rd 2,400,000,000 gp
94th 2,600,000,000 gp
95th 2,800,000,000 gp
96th 3,100,000,000 gp
97th 3,400,000,000 gp
98th 3,800,000,000 gp
99th 4,200,000,000 gp
100th 4,600,000,000 gp

NPC wealth projected by Phaedros of Dicefreaks. PC wealth by Mythmage of Dicefreaks.
Witch

01-11-07, 11:42 AM		Aluroon - I'd remove anything that is already covered by the ELH or the DMG. This is not open content, and threads have been locked for it before, even for mere mentioning of wealth for 1 specific level.
rob_douglas

01-11-07, 02:18 PM		Note that the book states the intention is to increase wealth by 10% per level. So the expected wealth at levels above 40 is

1.1^(L-40)*(wealth at 40th level)


For NPCs, it is

1.1^(L-30)*(wealth at 30th level)


You can round in there where you want, but that is really close enough....

ROB
RazielK

03-14-07, 10:31 PM		I have tried doing this personally for a level 110 character and have gotten numbers WAY below what the starting wealth is for a level 100 character. Are you sure that is the correct formula? Is it possible that you typed it wrong?

Not tryin to be critical, but I am HORRIBLE at math.

P.S. Sorry it took me so long to ask this, I have had AP homework up the ****!
rob_douglas

03-14-07, 11:17 PM		I don't think I understand - you put in 110 and 100 and came up with a smaller number for 100?

Or you compared the number from the formula using 110 with the number from this forum's FAQ table of starting wealth for a level 100 and got a smaller number?

If the latter is the case, then I suspect it is due to intermediate rounding. The table follows this formula, but at each level rounds up to the nearest significant digit, which could account for a large differential as the numbers get higher.

But yes, the formula is correct for the given rule of thumb: PC/NPC wealth increases by 10% every level in epic. If you want to make it 11% or 12%, just make the number 1.11 or 1.12 instead of 1.1.

ROB
RazielK

03-14-07, 11:21 PM		I tried doing it for 110 and the number was lower than 100. But thank you for the clarification.
rob_douglas

03-15-07, 11:28 AM		Let's see:

1.1^(110-40) = 1.1^70 = 789.75
1.1^(100-40) = 1.1^60 = 304.5

Wealth at 40th = 13.6 million. So, multiplying by 789.75 and 304.5 respectively, we get
110th = 10.74 billion
100th = 4.14 billion

That's what I get with my scientific calculator.

ROB
Holy_Beholder

03-15-07, 06:37 PM		After a certain point, you might as well just give the PC's whatever items they want. This point is level 40
bluemage55

03-15-07, 06:58 PM		After a certain point, you might as well just give the PC's whatever items they want. This point is level 40

Or not, because some people actually have a semblance of game balance.

Epic levels do not mean "throw away all the rules".
summerstar

09-28-07, 11:37 PM		NPC Wealth by Level:

31 - 630,000
32 - 690,000
33 - 760,000
34 - 840,000
35 - 920,000
36 - 1,010,000
37 - 1,110,000
38 - 1,220,000
39 - 1,340,000
40 - 1,470,000
41 - 1,620,000
42 - 1,780,000
43 - 1,960,000
44 - 2,160,000
45 - 2,380,000
46 - 2,620,000
47 - 2,880,000
48 - 3,170,000
49 - 3,490,000
50 - 3,840,000
51 - 4,220,000
52 - 4,640,000
53 - 5,100,000
54 - 5,610,000
55 - 6,170,000
56 - 6,790,000
57 - 7,470,000
58 - 8,220,000
59 - 9,040,000
60 - 9,940,000
61 - 10,930,000
62 - 12,020,000
63 - 13,220,000
64 - 14,540,000
65 - 15,990,000
66 - 17,590,000
67 - 19,350,000
68 - 21,290,000
69 - 23,420,000
70 - 25,760,000
71 - 28,340,000
72 - 31,170,000
73 - 34,290,000
74 - 37,720,000
75 - 41,490,000
76 - 45,640,000
77 - 50,200,000
78 - 55,220,000
79 - 60,740,000
80 - 66,810,000
81 - 73,490,000
82 - 80,840,000
83 - 88,920,000
84 - 97,810,000
85 - 107,590,000
86 - 118,350,000
87 - 130,190,000
88 - 143,210,000
89 - 157,530,000
90 - 173,280,000
91 - 190,610,000
92 - 209,670,000
93 - 230,640,000
94 - 253,700,000
95 - 279,070,000
96 - 306,980,000
97 - 337,680,000
98 - 371,450,000
99 - 408,600,000
100 - 449,460,000

PC Wealth

31st 4,900,000 gp
32nd 5,600,000 gp
33rd 6,300,000 gp
34th 7,000,000 gp
35th 7,900,000 gp
36th 8,800,000 gp
37th 9,900,000 gp
38th 11,000,000 gp
39th 12,300,000 gp
40th 13,600,000 gp
--------------------------------my extrapolation from here down
41st 15,100,000 gp
42nd 17,000,000 gp <---- rounded to nearest 1,000,000
43rd 19,000,000 gp
44th 21,000,000 gp
45th 23,000,000 gp
46th 25,000,000 gp
47th 28,000,000 gp
48th 31,000,000 gp
49th 34,000,000 gp
50th 38,000,000 gp
51st 42,000,000 gp
52nd 46,000,000 gp
53rd 51,000,000 gp
54th 56,000,000 gp
55th 62,000,000 gp
56th 68,000,000 gp
57th 75,000,000 gp
58th 82,000,000 gp
59th 91,000,000 gp
60th 100,000,000 gp
61st 110,000,000 gp
62nd 121,000,000 gp
63rd 134,000,000 gp
64th 147,000,000 gp
65th 162,000,000 gp
66th 180,000,000 gp <---- rounded to nearest 10,000,000
67th 200,000,000 gp
68th 220,000,000 gp
69th 240,000,000 gp
70th 260,000,000 gp
71st 290,000,000 gp
72nd 320,000,000 gp
73rd 350,000,000 gp
74th 380,000,000 gp
75th 420,000,000 gp
76th 460,000,000 gp
77th 510,000,000 gp
78th 560,000,000 gp
79th 620,000,000 gp
80th 680,000,000 gp
81st 750,000,000 gp
82nd 820,000,000 gp
83rd 910,000,000 gp
84th 1,000,000,000 gp
85th 1,100,000,000 gp
86th 1,210,000,000 gp
87th 1,330,000,000 gp
88th 1,460,000,000 gp
89th 1,610,000,000 gp
90th 1,770,000,000 gp
91st 1,900,000,000 gp <---- rounded to nearest 100,000,000
92nd 2,100,000,000 gp
93rd 2,400,000,000 gp
94th 2,600,000,000 gp
95th 2,800,000,000 gp
96th 3,100,000,000 gp
97th 3,400,000,000 gp
98th 3,800,000,000 gp
99th 4,200,000,000 gp
100th 4,600,000,000 gp

NPC wealth projected by Phaedros of Dicefreaks. PC wealth by Mythmage of Dicefreaks.

/bump
RazielK

10-01-07, 12:16 AM		Why?
Holy_Beholder

10-01-07, 09:14 AM		Or not, because some people actually have a semblance of game balance.

Epic levels do not mean "throw away all the rules".

No, but it is really easy to get whatever you want with spell abuse. So the players probably can get them. And balance pretty much breaks down at epic(well, considering what it was at lv 20, who's surprised?)
BillTheManiac

10-01-07, 03:36 PM		No, but it is really easy to get whatever you want with spell abuse. So the players probably can get them. And balance pretty much breaks down at epic(well, considering what it was at lv 20, who's surprised?)

He did say a "semblance" of balance. As long as you have balanced encounters and the PCs don't actively engage in wealth cheeese, it's will end up pretty even. By "stop tracking wealth" do you mean "let the players come to the table with characters with 1 bil gp at 40th level?
RazielK

10-01-07, 10:11 PM		Excuse me guys but this was dead for a good few months, I kept it on my subscribe list because I reference it often. Please stop arguing and let it die.

Again.
BillTheManiac

10-02-07, 05:14 PM		Excuse me guys but this was dead for a good few months, I kept it on my subscribe list because I reference it often. Please stop arguing and let it die.

Again.

summerstar's fault. And we have a valid argument.
RazielK

10-02-07, 07:33 PM		I do not care, please just put it in PM.

Thank you.