why are psionic seeds life and heal 25pts higher [Archive] - Wizards Community

why are psionic seeds life and heal 25pts higher [Archive] - Wizards Community

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sin_vraal
12-17-07, 12:48 AM why are psionic seeds life and heal 25pts higher as opposed to the spell equivalents? what am I missing?
Karsus the Mad
12-17-07, 02:01 AM It might have something to do with Heal and Life requiring a divine focus. Other than that, I can't really think of any reason.
Avatar of Kokusho
12-17-07, 08:13 AM Psions have the ability to return the dead and to heal people...if they're of the right discipline (can't remember which, though I think it's egoist). Maybe it should just ass the +15 Psicraft DC if you're NOT an egoist to use them.
Tequila_Sunrise
12-17-07, 01:09 PM Same reason arcane casters can't use the heal and life seeds at all; only the gods can grant true power over the body and soul. :rolleyes:
Kain_Darkwind
12-17-07, 04:16 PM Very simple. Psionics were supposed to suck in 3.0.
sin_vraal
12-17-07, 06:11 PM Same reason arcane casters can't use the heal and life seeds at all; only the gods can grant true power over the body and soul. :rolleyes:

Are you sure arcane casters cant use it? it only says cant use it if your knowledge religion or nature is less than 24. Also says if you are a eligible for epic dvine AND arcane, and if your using either of the 2 seeds, that your spell WILL be divine.

It kinda implies (badly) that if your only arcane, then its arcane, if your divine at all, then it WILL be divine. The text "If that same caster..." is dodgy b/c immediately before it is "A character who can cast both divine and arcane epic spells..."

Unless ofcourse they mean "that same caster" as in , (reworded) "if this character can cast arcane, then spell = arcane, if he can cast divine, then = divine, if arcane + divine, then arcane or divine. the this character uses life or heal then its always divine... dunno

An epic spell developed by an arcane spellcaster is arcane, and an epic spell developed by a divine spellcaster is divine. A character who can cast both divine and arcane epic spells chooses whether a particular spell he or she develops will be arcane or divine. If that same caster uses the heal or life seed in an epic spell, that spell is always considered divine. All the epic spells described here can be developed independently by a character who spends the necessary time, money, and experience points. Alternatively, a character can use those spells as a starting point when creating customized versions of the spells.
Taeldrin Laesrash
12-17-07, 11:29 PM I've always thought it was because the soul wasn't the domain of the mind, or something like that. The more I think about, Kain's reason seems accurate.
Tequila_Sunrise
12-18-07, 05:57 PM Are you sure arcane casters cant use it? it only says cant use it if your knowledge religion or nature is less than 24. Also says if you are a eligible for epic dvine AND arcane, and if your using either of the 2 seeds, that your spell WILL be divine.

I was just being facetious. "Psionics suck at healing because ye olde Sacred Cow says that healing is the domain of ye olde divine sycophants" was basically the point I wanted to make.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
sin_vraal 12-17-07, 12:48 AM	why are psionic seeds life and heal 25pts higher as opposed to the spell equivalents? what am I missing?
Karsus the Mad 12-17-07, 02:01 AM	It might have something to do with Heal and Life requiring a divine focus. Other than that, I can't really think of any reason.
Avatar of Kokusho 12-17-07, 08:13 AM	Psions have the ability to return the dead and to heal people...if they're of the right discipline (can't remember which, though I think it's egoist). Maybe it should just ass the +15 Psicraft DC if you're NOT an egoist to use them.
Tequila_Sunrise 12-17-07, 01:09 PM	Same reason arcane casters can't use the heal and life seeds at all; only the gods can grant true power over the body and soul. :rolleyes:
Kain_Darkwind 12-17-07, 04:16 PM	Very simple. Psionics were supposed to suck in 3.0.
sin_vraal 12-17-07, 06:11 PM	Same reason arcane casters can't use the heal and life seeds at all; only the gods can grant true power over the body and soul. :rolleyes: Are you sure arcane casters cant use it? it only says cant use it if your knowledge religion or nature is less than 24. Also says if you are a eligible for epic dvine AND arcane, and if your using either of the 2 seeds, that your spell WILL be divine. It kinda implies (badly) that if your only arcane, then its arcane, if your divine at all, then it WILL be divine. The text "If that same caster..." is dodgy b/c immediately before it is "A character who can cast both divine and arcane epic spells..." Unless ofcourse they mean "that same caster" as in , (reworded) "if this character can cast arcane, then spell = arcane, if he can cast divine, then = divine, if arcane + divine, then arcane or divine. the this character uses life or heal then its always divine... dunno An epic spell developed by an arcane spellcaster is arcane, and an epic spell developed by a divine spellcaster is divine. A character who can cast both divine and arcane epic spells chooses whether a particular spell he or she develops will be arcane or divine. If that same caster uses the heal or life seed in an epic spell, that spell is always considered divine. All the epic spells described here can be developed independently by a character who spends the necessary time, money, and experience points. Alternatively, a character can use those spells as a starting point when creating customized versions of the spells.
Taeldrin Laesrash 12-17-07, 11:29 PM	I've always thought it was because the soul wasn't the domain of the mind, or something like that. The more I think about, Kain's reason seems accurate.
Tequila_Sunrise 12-18-07, 05:57 PM	Are you sure arcane casters cant use it? it only says cant use it if your knowledge religion or nature is less than 24. Also says if you are a eligible for epic dvine AND arcane, and if your using either of the 2 seeds, that your spell WILL be divine. I was just being facetious. "Psionics suck at healing because ye olde Sacred Cow says that healing is the domain of ye olde divine sycophants" was basically the point I wanted to make.