...sneak attack...again... [Archive] - Wizards Community

...sneak attack...again... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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ReneBS
02-17-07, 11:45 AM I'm a bit uncertain when dealing with sneak attacks and being flat footed.
Imagine a hasted rogue making a full-round attack on his flat footed opponent (he has two or more attacks). Will all his attacks benefit from sneak attack damage? Or is it only the first attack of the series of attacks?
I am aware that only the first attack of a volley-type attack (multishot etc) benefits from sneak attack damage and this is the reason of my uncertainty.
Thanks for any help.
Illithid_Tentacles
02-17-07, 11:51 AM Volley shot-type attacks like Manyshot only use one attack roll, so the SA damage is only applied once. IF you get multiple attacks, from high BAB, dual-wielding, a weapon with the Speed enhncement, etc., each attack that connects gets SA damage applied to it.
HellflameArcanite
02-17-07, 12:42 PM Nice. So a rogue could do a full attack and apply sneak attack damage multiple times? I'm repeating it so that I can confirm that is what you are saying.
Kradlo
02-17-07, 12:56 PM If your opponent is flanked (thus in melee) or denied his Dex bonus to AC (whether or not he has a Dex bonus), you gain sneak attack damage (the latter includes missile attacks within 30 feet).

Attacking an opponent that is flat-footed, such as in the first round of combat, before he's had an action, usually grants this. Note that if the opponent has Uncanny Dodge, he retains his Dex bonus to AC even if flat-footed, and thus no sneak attack damage.

Shooting from concealment will give this on the first shot; after that first shot, you're no longer concealed, and so the remainder of your shots will not gain sneak attack damage.

Clear enough?
skywyze
02-17-07, 12:58 PM Nice. So a rogue could do a full attack and apply sneak attack damage multiple times? I'm repeating it so that I can confirm that is what you are saying.Correct. Also, check out the Ascetic Rogue feat from Complete Adventurer - full sneak attack AND Unarmed damage progression. Full flurry with sneak attacks? Yes please!
Illithid_Tentacles
02-17-07, 01:01 PM Nice. So a rogue could do a full attack and apply sneak attack damage multiple times? I'm repeating it so that I can confirm that is what you are saying.

Assuming he hits multiple times, yes, he could. A level 20 rogue using TWF with two daggers, with ITWF and GTWF, would get six attacks. EVERY attack that hits gets the full 10d6 of extra SA damage, in addition to whatever damage he does with his daggers.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
ReneBS 02-17-07, 11:45 AM	I'm a bit uncertain when dealing with sneak attacks and being flat footed. Imagine a hasted rogue making a full-round attack on his flat footed opponent (he has two or more attacks). Will all his attacks benefit from sneak attack damage? Or is it only the first attack of the series of attacks? I am aware that only the first attack of a volley-type attack (multishot etc) benefits from sneak attack damage and this is the reason of my uncertainty. Thanks for any help.
Illithid_Tentacles 02-17-07, 11:51 AM	Volley shot-type attacks like Manyshot only use one attack roll, so the SA damage is only applied once. IF you get multiple attacks, from high BAB, dual-wielding, a weapon with the Speed enhncement, etc., each attack that connects gets SA damage applied to it.
HellflameArcanite 02-17-07, 12:42 PM	Nice. So a rogue could do a full attack and apply sneak attack damage multiple times? I'm repeating it so that I can confirm that is what you are saying.
Kradlo 02-17-07, 12:56 PM	If your opponent is flanked (thus in melee) or denied his Dex bonus to AC (whether or not he has a Dex bonus), you gain sneak attack damage (the latter includes missile attacks within 30 feet). Attacking an opponent that is flat-footed, such as in the first round of combat, before he's had an action, usually grants this. Note that if the opponent has Uncanny Dodge, he retains his Dex bonus to AC even if flat-footed, and thus no sneak attack damage. Shooting from concealment will give this on the first shot; after that first shot, you're no longer concealed, and so the remainder of your shots will not gain sneak attack damage. Clear enough?
skywyze 02-17-07, 12:58 PM	Nice. So a rogue could do a full attack and apply sneak attack damage multiple times? I'm repeating it so that I can confirm that is what you are saying.Correct. Also, check out the Ascetic Rogue feat from Complete Adventurer - full sneak attack AND Unarmed damage progression. Full flurry with sneak attacks? Yes please!
Illithid_Tentacles 02-17-07, 01:01 PM	Nice. So a rogue could do a full attack and apply sneak attack damage multiple times? I'm repeating it so that I can confirm that is what you are saying. Assuming he hits multiple times, yes, he could. A level 20 rogue using TWF with two daggers, with ITWF and GTWF, would get six attacks. EVERY attack that hits gets the full 10d6 of extra SA damage, in addition to whatever damage he does with his daggers.