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skerbgs 12-22-06, 02:36 AM	How do you go about making armour without an Arcane Spell Failure Chance? I'm sure you can do it, but I don't have the books on me to check.
KurenaiYami 12-22-06, 02:48 AM	Mithral. Also, that one special ability. I want to say "Twilight," but I don't think that's it. Both reduce ASF.
theplaidknight 12-22-06, 03:14 AM	It is indeed Twilight, and it's in the Book of Exalted Deeds, but it only reduces spell failure chance by 10%.
KurenaiYami 12-22-06, 03:43 AM	It is indeed Twilight, and it's in the Book of Exalted Deeds, but it only reduces spell failure chance by 10%. Did Mithral reduce it by 10% or 15%? Because that's 20%-25% gone right there, which is pretty durn good.
J_Riley 12-22-06, 09:02 AM	Mithral reduces it by 10%....
Pellanor 12-22-06, 11:54 AM	I point you to the Char Ops board: Optimizing Armor for Minimum ASF
MerlintheTuna 12-22-06, 12:50 PM	Ook. That thread never really got off the ground; I imagine there are a good many other ways as well. The aforementioned Twilight enhancement also is mentioned in the PHB 2. I say this since many get concerned by material from the BoED and the BoVD; being reprinted implies the company has a certain degree of faith in the fairness. (Though for the record, why it appeared when describing the Duskblade, who ignores most ASF, is beyond me.) It approaches the problem from a different angle, but a fair number of prestige classes allow characters to avoid arcane spell failure. The Spell Sword (CWar) is the most common, and a one level dip is a great pickup for anyone willing to spend the the requisite Fighter/Paladin/what-have-you level to get in. The Suel Arcanamach (CArc) can ignore some as well, though looking at it, the class appears to pretty much suck. :( The last one I can think off off the top of my head is the Arcane Heirophant (Races of the Wild), which allows a character to ignore all ASF... as long as it's Druid-compliant armor.
WinterPsionic 12-22-06, 01:01 PM	Ook. That thread never really got off the ground; I imagine there are a good many other ways as well. The aforementioned Twilight enhancement also is mentioned in the PHB 2. I say this since many get concerned by material from the BoED and the BoVD; being reprinted implies the company has a certain degree of faith in the fairness. (Though for the record, why it appeared when describing the Duskblade, who ignores most ASF, is beyond me.) It approaches the problem from a different angle, but a fair number of prestige classes allow characters to avoid arcane spell failure. The Spell Sword (CWar) is the most common, and a one level dip is a great pickup for anyone willing to spend the the requisite Fighter/Paladin/what-have-you level to get in. The Suel Arcanamach (CArc) can ignore some as well, though looking at it, the class appears to pretty much suck. :( The last one I can think off off the top of my head is the Arcane Heirophant (Races of the Wild), which allows a character to ignore all ASF... as long as it's Druid-compliant armor. May I also point out the the Warlock can avoid ASF from Light Armor, though only for his invocations. The WarMage also gets to ignore ASF to a small degree, 1 level will allow you to Ignore Light Armor ASF, while 8 will alow you to ignore it for medium as well.
Tyler Do'Urden 12-22-06, 02:02 PM	How do you go about making armour without an Arcane Spell Failure Chance? Play a cleric. :rimshot:
DarkSummoner 12-22-06, 03:48 PM	The only way I would know how to have no ASF is by having a level 8+ Warmage with BAttle Caster a Feat in the Carc sourcebook that allows a user to take no ASF for one armour class higher then usual which will be good for Sorc and Wiz.
Einvaldurinn_mikli 12-22-06, 03:53 PM	Tesselated Twilight armor has its ASF% reduced by 30%. Thistledown I believe should take care of the rest. Full plate with no ASF%:
DarkSummoner 12-22-06, 04:10 PM	Einvaldurinn_mikli what books are the Tesselated Twilight armor and the Thistle Down in. Ive heard of them but not sure what book.
lint trap 12-22-06, 06:30 PM	Thistledown is in Races of the Wild. Tesselated isn't technically a special ability, but a specific armor. It's in A&EG. And it rocks, so hard.
Galeigh 12-22-06, 09:07 PM	its pretty expensive but.... Bracers of Armor +8 Gloves of DEX +6 Ring of protection +5 Amulet Of Natural Armor +5 +5 Animated Mithril Light Shield (+6 total shield bonus) so if ur character has a Dex of 21 without the gloves your dex is boosted to 27 with the gloves which has a +8 bonus. 10+8+8+5+5+6= 40 AC 40 AC with zero ASF and 0 ACP
WinterPsionic 12-26-06, 12:15 PM	its pretty expensive but.... Bracers of Armor +8 Gloves of DEX +6 Ring of protection +5 Amulet Of Natural Armor +5 +5 Animated Mithril Light Shield (+6 total shield bonus) so if ur character has a Dex of 21 without the gloves your dex is boosted to 27 with the gloves which has a +8 bonus. 10+8+8+5+5+6= 40 AC 40 AC with zero ASF and 0 ACP Based simply on what's here and for those that have trouble following along this setup only provides +27 and with the base 10 you'd be at 37, the 40 is assuming you already have a +3 Modifier for Dex.(My friend couldn't quite follow where the 40 came from so I'm breaking it down) Also in my experience Animated/Dancing Sheilds are often forbidden in campaigns, it may just be the people I play under but you may want to check with your DM just in case.