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2 questions [Archive] - Wizards Community

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deathbane
08-29-07, 01:42 PM 1. How much damage does a ballista do?

2. Say I have a longsword(1d8) and my extra damage is +2(str) +2(enchantment), +1(weapon focus). If I crit are all the bonuses add applied on the extra roll. I had always thought that it was, but I have found out recently that some DM's don't add the bonus, and I could not find anything in the books that supported it.
Duelpersonality
08-29-07, 01:46 PM 2. Say I have a longsword(1d8) and my extra damage is +2(str) +2(enchantment), +1(weapon focus). If I crit are all the bonuses add applied on the extra roll. I had always thought that it was, but I have found out recently that some DM's don't add the bonus, and I could not find anything in the books that supported it.

First off, weapon focus only adds to the to hit roll, not damage. As far as crits go, only extra damage dice--that is, dice that are not part of the weapon's base damage--are not multiplied. Str bonus, enhancement bonus and weapon spec damage bonus would all be multiplied. Things like the fire damage from a flaming longsword would not be multiplied.
baby_kamikaize_kobold
08-29-07, 09:43 PM I beleive that ballistas are detailed in the DMG
risner
08-29-07, 11:34 PM 1. How much damage does a ballista do?

2. Say I have a longsword(1d8) and my extra damage is +2(str) +2(enchantment), +1(weapon focus). If I crit are all the bonuses add applied on the extra roll. I had always thought that it was, but I have found out recently that some DM's don't add the bonus, and I could not find anything in the books that supported it.

1) read the DMG, page 140 ish.

2) +1(weapon focus) is bogus, that is to hit only. Also, extra dice don't add on a crit but STR, Enhancement Bonus, etc adds.
Pinkycatcher
08-29-07, 11:52 PM Also ballista are talked about in Stormwrack, I don't know if they have different info, I'm just saying
LoneStranger
08-30-07, 01:11 AM The GMs that I've worked with have always allowed the modifiers to multiply as well.

So unless it's houseruled differently str, enhancement, and weapon specialization all get multiplied.
Frugal
08-30-07, 08:15 AM The GMs that I've worked with have always allowed the modifiers to multiply as well.

That would be the way the rules work:

Sometimes you multiply damage by some factor, such as on a critical hit. Roll the damage (with all modifiers) multiple times and total the results. Note: When you multiply damage more than once, each multiplier works off the original, unmultiplied damage.

Exception: Extra damage dice over and above a weapon’s normal damage are never multiplied.

Not being critical, just figured someone should quote the exact rule in this thread and this seemed like a good place to do it.
mvincent
08-30-07, 02:44 PM 1. How much damage does a ballista do?3d8. It can be found in the SRD here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/wilderness.htm#siegeEngines).
deathbane
09-04-07, 05:21 PM Thanks for the link

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
deathbane 08-29-07, 01:42 PM	1. How much damage does a ballista do? 2. Say I have a longsword(1d8) and my extra damage is +2(str) +2(enchantment), +1(weapon focus). If I crit are all the bonuses add applied on the extra roll. I had always thought that it was, but I have found out recently that some DM's don't add the bonus, and I could not find anything in the books that supported it.
Duelpersonality 08-29-07, 01:46 PM	2. Say I have a longsword(1d8) and my extra damage is +2(str) +2(enchantment), +1(weapon focus). If I crit are all the bonuses add applied on the extra roll. I had always thought that it was, but I have found out recently that some DM's don't add the bonus, and I could not find anything in the books that supported it. First off, weapon focus only adds to the to hit roll, not damage. As far as crits go, only extra damage dice--that is, dice that are not part of the weapon's base damage--are not multiplied. Str bonus, enhancement bonus and weapon spec damage bonus would all be multiplied. Things like the fire damage from a flaming longsword would not be multiplied.
baby_kamikaize_kobold 08-29-07, 09:43 PM	I beleive that ballistas are detailed in the DMG
risner 08-29-07, 11:34 PM	1. How much damage does a ballista do? 2. Say I have a longsword(1d8) and my extra damage is +2(str) +2(enchantment), +1(weapon focus). If I crit are all the bonuses add applied on the extra roll. I had always thought that it was, but I have found out recently that some DM's don't add the bonus, and I could not find anything in the books that supported it. 1) read the DMG, page 140 ish. 2) +1(weapon focus) is bogus, that is to hit only. Also, extra dice don't add on a crit but STR, Enhancement Bonus, etc adds.
Pinkycatcher 08-29-07, 11:52 PM	Also ballista are talked about in Stormwrack, I don't know if they have different info, I'm just saying
LoneStranger 08-30-07, 01:11 AM	The GMs that I've worked with have always allowed the modifiers to multiply as well. So unless it's houseruled differently str, enhancement, and weapon specialization all get multiplied.
Frugal 08-30-07, 08:15 AM	The GMs that I've worked with have always allowed the modifiers to multiply as well. That would be the way the rules work: Sometimes you multiply damage by some factor, such as on a critical hit. Roll the damage (with all modifiers) multiple times and total the results. Note: When you multiply damage more than once, each multiplier works off the original, unmultiplied damage. Exception: Extra damage dice over and above a weapon’s normal damage are never multiplied. Not being critical, just figured someone should quote the exact rule in this thread and this seemed like a good place to do it.
mvincent 08-30-07, 02:44 PM	1. How much damage does a ballista do?3d8. It can be found in the SRD here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/wilderness.htm#siegeEngines).
deathbane 09-04-07, 05:21 PM	Thanks for the link