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Aggrenox 04-10-07, 05:31 PM	I was sitting at work and I was thinking. How do the RAW deal with this?! (point being that I want to make a set of claw weapons that are essentialy 4 daggers). http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled.jpg D4 DAMAGE! http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled2.jpg 2D4 DAMAGE! http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled3.jpg 3D4 DAMAGE??
Dotac 04-10-07, 05:36 PM	The logic of your stick figures is infallible
hiryuu 04-10-07, 05:37 PM	Simple answer? Not anymore than wearing some studded leather under a set of fullplate works. Complicated answer? If a player showed up to a game I was running with that idea, he'd get body-slammed onto a pile of d4s. And probably not by me, since I'd be more apt to say that doesn't work. On the other hand, I want a three-dagger toilet plunger.
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 05:43 PM	http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled4.jpg ?
Watchman 04-10-07, 05:43 PM	The persuasive power of pictures, supposedly worth a thousand words, rather loses its eloquence when all I can see is a red X on a white square. Anyway, D&D Tridents don't do nD6 damage by the virtue of having n wannabe spear-points either.
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 05:46 PM	Axe = Bigger head more damage? Sword = Bigger blade more damage? X-bow = bigger and better? Dagger = D4. Thats it.
Aryxbez 04-10-07, 05:46 PM	that would deal better damage than a warmace, or a greataxe depending on the crit. Besides just because it has three points doesn't mean it would deal 3d4s that is just dumb. I mean look at the trident, it only deals 1d8 damage. Otherwise a funny thread, and a good joke I'd say.
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 05:48 PM	I'm not disputing the fact that IT HAD BETTER DAMN WELL NOT DO 3D4 DAMAGE. But what would it do, and what does the RAW do to deal with crap like this.
Watchman 04-10-07, 05:51 PM	GM Fiat, obviously. Better hope s/he's in a good mood and actually capable of adjucating the question properly. :D
hiryuu 04-10-07, 05:54 PM	I'm not disputing the fact that IT HAD BETTER DAMN WELL NOT DO 3D4 DAMAGE. But what would it do, and what does the RAW do to deal with crap like this. GM fiat, mostly. My thoughts? It's a trident. The latest one? It breaks easy.
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 05:55 PM	http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled5.jpg D8 TO D4?!
Crimson_Concerto 04-10-07, 05:56 PM	:rofl: stick figure win!
hiryuu 04-10-07, 06:00 PM	Dude. I bet you could use some sovereign glue to stick a kobold to the end of a mace, or something else suitably nasty and ill-tempered (maybe a dire maggot) on the end of a really long pole and just dangle it near your enemy.
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 06:04 PM	But multi shot fires two arrows right? Each doing D8. More arrows more damage. More daggers?!?!
Watchman 04-10-07, 06:05 PM	WH40K Orks called and said they want their caged-attack-squig-inna-peg-leg weapons back. :D
Watchman 04-10-07, 06:08 PM	But multi shot fires two arrows right? Each doing D8.'Tis a foul and stoopid feat and offensive in the eyes of JHVH. Shouldst thou see it shalt thou throw into into the deepest abysses of the fathomless sea tied to a large, pious rock (a drunken Dwarf will do in a pinch) lest it rise again to befoul the sunny lands of living.
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 06:09 PM	:heehee But ok here is the text on manyshot. Manyshot [General] Prerequisites Dex 17, Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, base attack bonus +6 Benefit As a standard action, you may fire two arrows at a single opponent within 30 feet. Both arrows use the same attack roll (with a -4 penalty) to determine success and deal damage normally (but see Special). For every five points of base attack bonus you have above +6, you may add one additional arrow to this attack, to a maximum of four arrows at a base attack bonus of +16. However, each arrow after the second adds a cumulative -2 penalty on the attack roll (for a total penalty of -6 for three arrows and -8 for four). Damage reduction and other resistances apply separately against each arrow fired. Special Regardless of the number of arrows you fire, you apply precision-based damage only once. If you score a critical hit, only the first arrow fired deals critical damage; all others deal regular damage. A fighter may select Manyshot as one of his fighter bonus feats. A 6th-level ranger who has chosen the archery combat style is treated as having Manyshot even if he does not have the prerequisites for it, but only when he is wearing light or no armor. So if more arrows make more d8's why shouldn't more daggers make more d4's?
Watchman 04-10-07, 06:11 PM	In melee, I presume ? Because dividing your impact energy across several contact points is a pretty good way to cause numerous superficial wounds but not a single one deep enough to do real harm.
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 06:34 PM	http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled6.jpg This is the goal. How much damage?
leomunds_assistant 04-10-07, 06:39 PM	Go for the 3d4!!!
Watchman 04-10-07, 06:40 PM	If there's a pic there, my browser quite refuses to show it. The cad, no manners at all. :nonono: Mr. Christian, punish this browser!
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 06:42 PM	http://nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled6.jpg Follow the link and see if you can see it.
leomunds_assistant 04-10-07, 06:43 PM	I say screw the daggers and go for Greatswords! But honestly if i was the DM i would make it trident damage.
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 06:45 PM	Trident 15 gp 1d6 1d8 ×2 10 ft. 4 lb. Piercing
leomunds_assistant 04-10-07, 06:48 PM	How about this, same crit range as a dagger, trident damage, and slightly more gold. Also does slashing or piercing and no throw range.
Watchman 04-10-07, 06:52 PM	http://nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled6.jpg Follow the link and see if you can see it.Nuh-huh. It sometimes deigns to show the "page cannot be found" error message though.
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 06:54 PM	I say screw the daggers and go for Greatswords! But honestly if i was the DM i would make it trident damage. http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled7.jpg
leomunds_assistant 04-10-07, 06:59 PM	:heehee :rofl:
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 06:59 PM	Hmm. ok, well. Tell me if you can see them now.
antsterr 04-10-07, 07:05 PM	Now, what about a crossbow that shoots greatswords? The Gnomish made Exotic Weapon, Sathber Salvalor's Stupendous Sword Slinger! Exotic Ranged Weapon The S-5 1000GP, Damage as per projectile*, 80ft^ Range, 25lbs, Piercing. *Does damage as per the sword that is shot. ^ Range set for one handed weapon it increases to 100 for a light weapon, decreases to 50 for a two handed weapon.
Watchman 04-10-07, 07:12 PM	Nope. Probably some obscure browser setting problem.
Sajek 04-10-07, 07:17 PM	You say you were at work thinking of this? Glad to hear you were so productive.
Aggrenox 04-10-07, 07:22 PM	You say you were at work thinking of this? Glad to hear you were so productive. Yeah, it's off season. I do tech support for online leaning platforms at schools accross the nation. Everyone has the "new class issue" fix'd. :bored:
WolfHati 04-10-07, 10:36 PM	Stabbing someone with 3 daggers at once does not do 3 times the damage a normal dagger does for the same reason that those people who lie on a bed of nails and have someone break a cinderblock over their just with a sledgehammer do not try the same trick with one nail.
xanadu 04-10-07, 10:42 PM	:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
MerlintheTuna 04-10-07, 10:56 PM	Pfft. Set your sights higher. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/MerlintheTuna/Random%20Images/undead.jpg) Edit: Pic re-uploaded, link fixed.
Perseus_Stoned 04-10-07, 10:57 PM	To everyone who has been involved in this thread: To quote Aggrenox's own profile: Other Hobbies & Interests: Internet Trolling ;) To just Aggrenox: Teach me your ways, oh Jedi master.
Chimaera2000 04-11-07, 12:05 AM	I don't care if this is serious or not, I couldn't help myself from laughing. Those stick figure pictures get me every time. :rofl: For the goal that you're looking for, I'd say you could just stick with punching dagger stats. I'm not an expert on either physics or medieval weaponry, so I can only go by weapon balance guidelines in my recommendation. You could also check out the clawed gauntlets in Sword and Fist.
Sphyre 04-11-07, 03:11 AM	http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled3.jpg 3D4 DAMAGE?? So what stroke of genius inspired you to attach 3 daggers to a plunger? Do you plan on cutting their face and then sucking it off with the plunger? ;)
Watchman 04-11-07, 06:45 AM	Pfft. Set your sights higher. (http://www.thezreview.co.uk/posters/posterimages/u/undead2.jpg):rofl: That certainly redefines "awesome", after a fashion. :D
Aggrenox 04-11-07, 12:50 PM	Pfft. Set your sights higher. (http://www.thezreview.co.uk/posters/posterimages/u/undead2.jpg) What! what is this link you send me!??! I see nothing...! Forbidden You don't have permission to access /posters/posterimages/u/undead2.jpg on this server. ________________________________________ ___________________________ Apache/2.0.59 (Unix) Server at www.thezreview.co.uk Port 80
Aggrenox 04-11-07, 12:51 PM	So what stroke of genius inspired you to attach 3 daggers to a plunger? Do you plan on cutting their face and then sucking it off with the plunger? ;) Plungers are one of the most valuable weapons a man could have. It's like a stick with poo! only plungy!
MerlintheTuna 04-11-07, 01:31 PM	What! what is this link you send me!??! I see nothing...!Link should be fixed. Try it now.
Aggrenox 04-11-07, 01:44 PM	So that should be like, 3d12 right?
Tommyboy 04-11-07, 01:49 PM	Seriously though, would it be at all balanced to have an exotic weapon do 3d4 20 x2? Maybe base it off the Ranseur with or without a disarm bonus or reach.
Tichondrus 04-11-07, 01:50 PM	*bows down to the magnific laughersome sticky figures* Now seriously, as a DM, I'd set it as an exotic weapon with causes (3d3)+1 points of damage (two handed fo course). With a minumum damage of 4 (1 for each dagger +1 for the weight of the weapon) and a maximum damage of 10. Critical rate being x2 (only with 20) and not keen edge'able (since it lacks edges ^^). So it'd be something like: Stick figure'sflail of D00M: Exoctic weapon Two handed polearm. Piercing damage. 30 GP (+ the cost of each dagger if high quality, making it REALLY expensive to make it high quality). Crit. x2 Sticky figures get competence with this weapon as if it was martial. D:
Aggrenox 04-11-07, 01:59 PM	So what about the claw weapon. Is it wrong for it to do 3d2 or 3d3?
Sakaki22 04-11-07, 02:04 PM	Now, what about a crossbow that shoots greatswords? The Gnomish made Exotic Weapon, Sathber Salvalor's Stupendous Sword Slinger! http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/Sakaki22/greatxbow.jpg Would Great Sathber Salbator approve? EDIT: Crap, I didn't even know there was a page two, and everyone decided to play serious. In that event, use the Nekode claws from OA, or have a version of such a weapon been reprinted somewhere?
Tichondrus 04-11-07, 02:09 PM	Roflmfao, where do you get the pictures? About the katars you showed, the single bladed one would do (in my opinion) more damage than the one with two blades, with the one with two blades having a better chance to crit. As in 19-20/x2 and 20/x3 (the single bladed one is the x3). About the one with the huge swords on it, sorry, that cant be weilded in real life, physics laws say that, if you want to adapt it, go for it ^^
Qwicksilver 04-11-07, 02:14 PM	I think that a smaller dagger would do d3 or d2 damage, but the larger trident would do a full d4 Also, everyone's saying it's a plunger. Correct me if i'm wrong, but it looks like a broom with the bristles removed. So Nyah. By the way.... http://a495.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/19/l_777e95f9422dd18c31838a640a147b7e.jpg
Aggrenox 04-11-07, 02:37 PM	http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/Sakaki22/greatxbow.jpg http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/coupon.jpg
Sakaki22 04-11-07, 03:01 PM	Since it's earning me Internets, I'll do one more. But I quit after this. You can blame Tinker Gnomes for this genius idea. http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/Sakaki22/ogod.jpg Apparently they had a beef with how often you find those +1 longswords adventuring, and found a more practical use than selling them.
Watchman 04-11-07, 04:12 PM	:mymy: Dude. Metal. :thumbsup: :coolcthul
Silverthumb128 04-11-07, 05:09 PM	OK, so what would happen if you had a crossbow that fired a bolt, and on that bolt, were another crossbow that fired another bolt? And on that last bolt, there were a Heavy Flail?
ridiculous 04-11-07, 05:24 PM	The universe would crumble Seriously This thread fits with my nickname
Sphyre 04-11-07, 06:20 PM	Also, everyone's saying it's a plunger. Correct me if i'm wrong, but it looks like a broom with the bristles removed. So Nyah. I beleive I was the only one claiming it was a plunger. In addition, the OP responded to my post, with no mention of correction about the plungerness of the weapon, so it must indeed be a plunger :)
Aggrenox 04-11-07, 06:57 PM	Well, it was a broom. Then, again, it is MUCH cooler as a plunger.
Ravag3r 04-11-07, 07:07 PM	I once had a dream where I wielded a crossbow that shoots tomato slices. Bad. Ass.
Magon 04-21-07, 01:23 PM	*bows to the wickedness of this thread* oh great masters of insanety, remove all logic from my mind and replace it with tomato slices.... oops to late
The_Normal_Anomaly 04-21-07, 11:01 PM	I feel the urge to chip in. http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1893/axeofretardkk1.png (http://imageshack.us) "This was a bad idea, even on the scale of Orcish bad ideas." ―Orc weaponsmith http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6123/chainofretardox0.png (http://imageshack.us) "Well, if I take Monkey Grip and have Powerful Build and grab oversized Two Weapon Fighting I could―" "Your character is now a level one commoner until you can figure out what you have done wrong." ―Munchkin with no understanding of said feats and the munchkin's DM. OK, so what would happen if you had a crossbow that fired a bolt, and on that bolt, were another crossbow that fired another bolt? And on that last bolt, there were a Heavy Flail? http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4052/crossbowofretardlj3.png (http://imageshack.us)
Holy_Beholder 04-21-07, 11:16 PM	:rofl:
Archangel62 04-21-07, 11:32 PM	My concern is what ate the three daggers that left the clog that plunger had to clear.
runestar 04-21-07, 11:34 PM	Maybe some stuntman accidentially choked on the daggers he was supposed to be swallowing for his performance, and with possible medical attention so far away, the plumber had to get creative if he was to save his life...:P Pray the stuntman never finds out just where the plunger had been prior to it being used to resuscitate him...:D
inthesto 04-21-07, 11:47 PM	http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6123/chainofretardox0.png (http://imageshack.us) "Well, if I take Monkey Grip and have Powerful Build and grab oversized Two Weapon Fighting I could―" "Your character is now a level one commoner until you can figure out what you have done wrong." ―Munchkin with no understanding of said feats and the munchkin's DM. Oh my god, I think we're on the verge of discovering the...Fractal Spiked Chain
BlackWeasel 04-22-07, 02:40 AM	The crossbow fires a crossbow with a string tied to the trigger, when the launched crossbow reaches max range you pull the string. This causes the launched crossbow to launch another crossbow with a string tied to the trigger, when the 2nd launched crossbow reaches max range you pull the string. This causes the 2nd launched crossbow to launch a crossbow with a string tied to the trigger.:D
Eikre 04-22-07, 04:22 AM	Seriously though, would it be at all balanced to have an exotic weapon do 3d4 20 x2? Maybe base it off the Ranseur with or without a disarm bonus or reach. Greatsword: Minimum 2 damage. Maximum 12 damage. Craponastick: Mimimum 3 damage. Maximum 12 damage. Greatsword: Martial. Craponastick: Exotic. Greatsword: 19-20/x2 Craponastick: x2 Greatsword: More *******ed HP, even. Craponastick: Sunder-fodder. Gods. Try to do a bit of thinking.
RoninFrosty 05-13-07, 10:00 AM	I so subscribed to this thread. And that Fractal Spiked Chain...I could totally see enlarging the center hoop, and slipping it on like ****ing armor! Spiked Chain ARMOR! Hello! And you couldn't be disarmed! Huzzah!
Holy_Beholder 05-13-07, 11:44 AM	I so subscribed to this thread. And that Fractal Spiked Chain...I could totally see enlarging the center hoop, and slipping it on like ****ing armor! Spiked Chain ARMOR! Hello! And you couldn't be disarmed! Huzzah! Hula Hoop of DOOOOOM!!! Sorry I couldn't resist:P
RoninFrosty 05-13-07, 01:34 PM	TOTALLY what I was thinking! Dude! How many attacks would you get with this? I'm thinking just by attempting to swing one of the chains once, you'd succeed with about four actual attacks... And holy grap! Trip checks anyone? You could trip everything in like a mile radius!
Ged Coldplain 05-13-07, 05:36 PM	TOTALLY what I was thinking! Dude! How many attacks would you get with this? I'm thinking just by attempting to swing one of the chains once, you'd succeed with about four actual attacks... And holy grap! Trip checks anyone? You could trip everything in like a mile radius! you would most likely attack yourself 4 times, and get a free trip attempt against yourself... great weapon, as long as you don't use it :P on the trippel dagger weapon thing, if it was one handed it could deal 3d4 20x2 as a exotic one-handed weapon... the war mace is the btw the one suckiest exotic weapon ever, hell, exotic weapons that have a high damage dice suck in general... on higher levels its simply not a noticeable edge...
Sakaki22 05-13-07, 06:23 PM	I totally stopped myself from doing the spiked chain thing. Although now I see it, I want to design a dungeon with a trapped hallway of one of those things ANIMATED. I'll call it The Blender. If anyone calls me on it, stating spiked chains are not slashing, they get Blender Aggro.
marcus_antonius 05-14-07, 12:36 AM	Hi, first of all: 3!! Thumbs up for this thread :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D one of the best threads ever. BUT... it almost seems all of you forgot, or maybe even worse, dont even know, that the holy grail of "craptacular weaponry" has already been found. 3 words: SWORD CHUCKS YO ! link for everyone who doesnt know what I'm talking about: http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010815 :ayyyy!:
Fireclave 05-14-07, 12:45 AM	3 words: SWORD CHUCKS YO ! Orly :bored: Sword Chucks pale in comparison to LIGHT SABER CHUCKS! (http://www.captainsnes.com/?date=20060409) :evillaugh ... And here's the Coup De Grace (http://www.captainsnes.com/?date=20060707)
Mogarth_Warheart 05-14-07, 12:54 AM	DOuble post
Mogarth_Warheart 05-14-07, 12:55 AM	http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1893/axeofretardkk1.png (http://imageshack.us) "This was a bad idea, even on the scale of Orcish bad ideas." ―Orc weaponsmith Orc Shurikin!!!!!!!
Oakes 05-14-07, 12:57 AM	I would handle it like this: "Did you bring your dAwesome die? No? Then it shatters when you swing it, blinding you. A wizard did it."
risner 05-14-07, 07:45 AM	Is there a serious question in this 3 page thread or is this just "fun with photoshop?" Yes, I did read the whole 1st page and most of the 2nd and 3rd. I am still confused if there is a serious question or not. If so, then take the 3.5 weapon balance thread (the % based one is the most accurate) and calculate up the damage based on the weapon type (simple, martial, exotic but martial sounds about right for this.)
Silverthumb128 05-14-07, 11:58 AM	http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4052/crossbowofretardlj3.png (http://imageshack.us) Its wonderful. :D
Aggrenox 05-14-07, 02:26 PM	The main question was, would 3 daggers used in unison deal 3d4 damage? But then the thread evolved into it's legendary thread. Upon gaining the Legendary Thread template it gained 3 hit dice and Immunity to critical failures. Also: http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6123/chainofretardox0.png Spiked chain net.
risner 05-14-07, 04:40 PM	The main question was, would 3 daggers used in unison deal 3d4 damage? Ok, easy answer. No.
Aggrenox 05-14-07, 05:14 PM	Then what damage does three daggers do?
Watchman 05-14-07, 05:16 PM	D4 each. Duh. :P But you better have three manipulators if you want to bring them to bear all at once...
frasmage 05-14-07, 05:39 PM	:rofl: I love photoshop :D my turn http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/203/rangedlancewk2.jpg ranged lance = ranged charge? :P
AtmaWeapon 05-14-07, 08:30 PM	This thread is full of epic and win.
The_Normal_Anomaly 05-14-07, 09:11 PM	Is there a serious question in this 3 page thread or is this just "fun with photoshop?" I will have you know that I only used Microsoft Paint.
dagman 05-14-07, 09:42 PM	dagman will now be the downer you cant get the same power from those three dagers my logic and example the bed of nails the multipal points spread the pressure applied same with the gillete razor with five blade
RoninFrosty 05-15-07, 12:54 AM	I think I'm going to run an 8-Bit Theatresque campaign, and allow the PCs to stat and use any weapon that they can make in Paint/Photoshop. Except for the punching dagger + Greatsword thing. That's totally the BBEGs.
risner 05-15-07, 01:40 AM	Then what damage does three daggers do? Sigh. 1d4 Dagger is a Simple Light Melee Weapon that does 1d4 with 19-20/×2 crit. In order to do more damage with 2, 3, 4, 99 daggers your only option is to do one of the following: 1) increase the type (Light -> One Handed -> Two Handed.) 2) increase the complexity (Simple -> Martial -> Exotic) 3) decrease the crit (19-20 -> 20) 4) add a severe drawback (-1 to all attacks) Look at this thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=694416 3d4 = 3*2.5 = 7.5 = 1d15 = 2d6+0.5 so go with 2d6 since Martial Greatsword is 2d6 and the best Martial weapon. So your 3d4 dagger would be this in game: Three Dagger Death 2d6 Martial Two Handed weapon 19-20x2
Ged Coldplain 05-16-07, 11:49 AM	Sigh. 1d4 Dagger is a Simple Light Melee Weapon that does 1d4 with 19-20/×2 crit. In order to do more damage with 2, 3, 4, 99 daggers your only option is to do one of the following: 1) increase the type (Light -> One Handed -> Two Handed.) 2) increase the complexity (Simple -> Martial -> Exotic) 3) decrease the crit (19-20 -> 20) 4) add a severe drawback (-1 to all attacks) Look at this thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=694416 3d4 = 3*2.5 = 7.5 = 1d15 = 2d6+0.5 so go with 2d6 since Martial Greatsword is 2d6 and the best Martial weapon. So your 3d4 dagger would be this in game: Three Dagger Death 2d6 Martial Two Handed weapon 19-20x2 You win the thread...
RobbyPants 05-16-07, 03:44 PM	This thread is made of awesome and digital win! :w00t: Orc Shurikin!!!!!!! That was my first thought! :P
ProdigalMadness 05-16-07, 03:53 PM	How about a staff...with one side completely LINED with daggers? Eh? Or, as my friend designed, the Automatic Knife Launcher. Make a gnomish machine that's basically a wheel with a crank on each side. Pump the cranks and watch dagger after dagger fly into that opponent! Never before has killing been so easy!
Nat_20 05-16-07, 04:13 PM	http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6123/chainofretardox0.png (http://imageshack.us) "Well, if I take Monkey Grip and have Powerful Build and grab oversized Two Weapon Fighting I could―" "Your character is now a level one commoner until you can figure out what you have done wrong." ―Munchkin with no understanding of said feats and the munchkin's DM. In the name of Corellon Larethian... I want to use this...
Aggrenox 05-16-07, 05:03 PM	http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled6.jpg Starting, with 100% One-Handed Melee Weapon -30% Cannot Be Disarmed +5% 2d4 +22% 20/x2 +5% =103% ?
risner 05-16-07, 09:43 PM	Starting, with 100% One-Handed Melee Weapon -30% Cannot Be Disarmed +5% 2d4 +22% 20/x2 +5% =103% ? If you got the numbers from the 3.5 weapon thread (and it looks like you did), then that would be a 103% weapon (and since it is between 95% and 105%, it is balanced.) You would prefer to make it exactly 100%, since the greater majority are exactly 100%. Also it is designed around Martial weapons, if you are looking to keep it as a simple weapon, use 95% as your target.
captianhowdy 05-16-07, 10:05 PM	Eh, what the hell, ill throw somethin in http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/thegreatestnightmare/BattteringBow.jpg
Nathreet 05-16-07, 11:19 PM	http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4052/crossbowofretardlj3.png (http://imageshack.us) Sigged.
RobbyPants 05-16-07, 11:49 PM	Okay, I'll add a few. The Dire Crossbow http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/robbypants/direcrossbow.jpg The Orcish Dire Axe http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/robbypants/orcdireaxe.jpg and The Deadly Spiked Sap!!! http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/robbypants/spikedsap.jpg
captianhowdy 05-17-07, 12:45 AM	Okay, I'll add a few. The Dire Crossbow http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/robbypants/direcrossbow.jpg I believe we have a winner
Werral 05-17-07, 09:38 AM	I believe we have a winner If you chained a pixie with the Rapid Reload feat to each crossbow THEN you'd be onto something.
captianhowdy 05-17-07, 08:47 PM	simple but effective http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/thegreatestnightmare/QuadrupleSword.jpg 8d6 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/thegreatestnightmare/THEepic.jpg 16d6! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/thegreatestnightmare/DireTarrasque.jpg WHAT HATH GOD WROGHT!!! the Dire Tarrasque. thats what
Watchman 05-17-07, 08:55 PM	:rofl: Now that is certainly A W H O L E N E W L E V E L of Something Else. Although shouldn't the Tarrasques be attached by their tails ?
Archangel_Tyrael 05-17-07, 08:57 PM	http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/thegreatestnightmare/DireTarrasque.jpg WHAT HATH GOD WROGHT!!! the Dire Tarrasque. thats what :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
captianhowdy 05-17-07, 08:59 PM	Could be... At the time the noes-ring was easier XD
Nat_20 05-17-07, 09:00 PM	For the love of god...
RobbyPants 05-17-07, 09:40 PM	http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/thegreatestnightmare/DireTarrasque.jpg WHAT HATH GOD WROGHT!!! the Dire Tarrasque. thats what Awesome sauce! Certainly beats my spiked sap! So, how do you wield it? Do you need to be collosal with Monkey Grip???
captianhowdy 05-17-07, 10:11 PM	Awesome sauce! Certainly beats my spiked sap! So, how do you wield it? Do you need to be collosal with Monkey Grip??? Yeah, Monkey Grip might help a wee bit
Magon 05-18-07, 05:22 AM	http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/thegreatestnightmare/DireTarrasque.jpg WHAT HATH GOD WROGHT!!! the Dire Tarrasque. thats what can i sig this?
Sajek 05-18-07, 01:07 PM	This thread is full of awesome and win. I am honored to be posting on it. What if there was a bow that shot nunchakus? Or a tower shield with crossbows instead of spikes? Unfourtunately for me, my photoshop-fu is weak, can someone do it?
captianhowdy 05-18-07, 01:18 PM	can i sig this? lol yes in fact i encourage it!
DreadPirateSkippy 05-18-07, 02:35 PM	Is there a serious question in this 3 page thread or is this just "fun with photoshop?" Yes, I did read the whole 1st page and most of the 2nd and 3rd. I am still confused if there is a serious question or not. If so, then take the 3.5 weapon balance thread (the % based one is the most accurate) and calculate up the damage based on the weapon type (simple, martial, exotic but martial sounds about right for this.) Whining about being serious from a guy who thinks a ring of mettle should cost 100,000gp. :rolleyes:
Fwib 05-19-07, 04:25 AM	To all those who said that in seriousness it can't be done: Manyfang Dagger. (from serpent kingdoms) To those who, on reading the first part above, thought I was being too serious for this thread: Slap extra enhancements on your Manyfang Dagger, make it a sizing, shaping, manyfang dagger, now you can replicate quite a few of the wonderful tinkergnomish creations already seen before..... For simplicity, I rather like the Manyfang Greatsword :)
Caliborn 05-19-07, 07:07 AM	I feel the urge to chip in. http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1893/axeofretardkk1.png (http://imageshack.us) "This was a bad idea, even on the scale of Orcish bad ideas." ―Orc weaponsmith http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6123/chainofretardox0.png (http://imageshack.us) "Well, if I take Monkey Grip and have Powerful Build and grab oversized Two Weapon Fighting I could―" "Your character is now a level one commoner until you can figure out what you have done wrong." ―Munchkin with no understanding of said feats and the munchkin's DM. http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4052/crossbowofretardlj3.png (http://imageshack.us) Here you are sir, you deserve this. http://www.mypicshare.com/thumbs/20070519/ntsoorup.jpg (http://www.mypicshare.com/ntsooruppic.html) This reminds me of the time my friend and I were discussing exotic weapons and manged to come up with dire spiked gauntlets and full plate chucks.
Romtos 05-19-07, 08:27 AM	1 vote for extending the spikier-chain.
AtmaWeapon 05-19-07, 04:08 PM	I call foul, the book specifically says there's only one tarrasque! I mean jeez guys, lets keep it realistic. :rolleyes:
Watchman 05-19-07, 04:36 PM	A wizard did it.
captianhowdy 05-19-07, 05:17 PM	A wizard did it. agreed
risner 05-19-07, 10:01 PM	Whining about being serious from a guy who thinks a ring of mettle should cost 100,000gp. :rolleyes: Hey skippy, glad to see ya again. For the record, I wasn't whining, I was confused if I should post a photoshop or answer the OP question. As for the Mettle, have you ever played with that ability? I have (Psious Templar) and I'd rather have Mettle than Evasion hands down any day. Don't respond until you have played with both, because you just make yourself look silly.
sigma999 05-20-07, 02:49 AM	Aggrenox, I'd tip my hat to you but I haven't got a hat. And your image problems are probably due to your work internet filter.. So far in this thread, my favorite was the tarrasque-chucks...
JulesCARV 05-20-07, 03:31 AM	Never mind
RobbyPants 05-20-07, 11:37 AM	This thread is full of awesome and win. I am honored to be posting on it. What if there was a bow that shot nunchakus? Or a tower shield with crossbows instead of spikes? Unfourtunately for me, my photoshop-fu is weak, can someone do it? Here's a Nunchuck Bow for you... http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/robbypants/nunchuckbow.jpg
frasmage 05-20-07, 01:16 PM	Time to take the maturity level of this thread down a notch with some gratuitous personal attacks: ok that is baiting.... I would suggest removing that before a mod sees it. That would result in a warning for you and possibly locking this otherwise hilarious thread
Xan_Kriegor 05-20-07, 03:02 PM	It might just be my SRD, but I couldn't find it. What exactly does it {EDIT: Ring of Mettle} do?
Fwib 05-20-07, 03:29 PM	It might just be my SRD, but I couldn't find it. What exactly does it {EDIT: Ring of Mettle} do?As far as I know, the Ring of Mettle does not exist, but I guess it is the house-ruled equivalent of the Ring of Evasion, but using the Mettle ability instead (make a save on a fort or will half/partial, don't take the half/partial damage).
Koretsu 05-20-07, 04:11 PM	I wanted to contribute. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/Koretsu/1d82d61d103d4.jpg The Composite Dire Bow. "It was only fired once..." - Deranged Weaponsmith 2d8+2d6+1d10+3d4; 19-20; 3x
frasmage 05-20-07, 05:59 PM	Never mind much better :)
Yadot 05-20-07, 09:45 PM	http://i19.tinypic.com/4zw14as.jpg The scary thing is is that this is probably the most realistic weapon in the thread. Except for the Tarrasque fail, I could totally see that in real life.
Koretsu 05-21-07, 03:22 PM	Bumped for teh awesome. :D I love this thread.
RobbyPants 05-21-07, 03:41 PM	Yes, it is made of awesome and digital win. Each person who posted a weapon should be submitted into a drawing for free internets! :P
captianhowdy 05-21-07, 10:30 PM	I wanted to contribute. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/Koretsu/1d82d61d103d4.jpg The Composite Dire Bow. "It was only fired once..." - Deranged Weaponsmith 2d8+2d6+1d10+3d4; 19-20; 3x lol i like this one. it seems like it just might have enough points to pop the universe
Nat_20 05-21-07, 10:45 PM	I wanna see a Double Elminster of Shadowdale flail, that would be just a step up from the Terraque double flail
Aggrenox 05-22-07, 02:53 PM	GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD! DIRE ELMINSTER OF SHADOW-FLAIL http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/direelm.jpg
captianhowdy 05-22-07, 06:51 PM	Dire Pun-Pun anyone?
Watchman 05-22-07, 08:23 PM	GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD! DIRE ELMINSTER OF SHADOW-FLAIL http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/direelm.jpg:rofl: For some reason the words "punk Kewbie doll" spring to mind.
grimreapercactus 05-23-07, 03:46 PM	Originally Posted by Aggrenox GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD! DIRE ELMINSTER OF SHADOW-FLAIL Genius. Pure genius. How much damage does it do? :P
Evil DM Mk3 05-23-07, 03:48 PM	Awsome/Punadge 1-20/x800 2-20/x9000
grimreapercactus 05-23-07, 04:17 PM	How does one upload an image from Paint? I'd like to contribute to the awesomeness.
the_taken 05-23-07, 05:16 PM	Step 1: after creating your image, save it and memorize it's location. Usually the first place the save option directs you to is on the desktop, or the 'My Documents' folder, or another folder you've previously saved in. Set 2: go to a file hosting website, specifiably an image hosting one, like Photo Bucket (http://photobucket.com/) or Image Shack (http://www.mageshack.us) and following the instruction for uploading an image. Step 3: write down (or memorize) the web address the file hosting site will provide for the image. Step 4: in a post on the forumns, place this address within tags like this: http://picture.address.web/lettersandstuff For more post coding fun: Check out the vB Code List (http://boards1.wizards.com/misc.php?do=bbcode)
grimreapercactus 05-24-07, 03:18 AM	Thanks a bunch the taken. I present: http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa261/grimreapercactus/crossbowofawesomeness.jpg
Evil DM Mk3 05-24-07, 05:52 AM	It needs a name...
Aggrenox 05-24-07, 02:57 PM	Bug-worm-launcher.
Nat_20 05-24-07, 04:30 PM	GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD! DIRE ELMINSTER OF SHADOW-FLAIL http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/direelm.jpg :rofl: :pile: :bounce: :heehee :cloud9: :bow: :bow: :bow: i can only show my appreciation through SMILIES
the_taken 05-24-07, 05:11 PM	Thanks a bunch the taken. I present: bug-worm-launcher Awesome. Bugbear with OSTWF wielding demonic worm heads. On a X-bow.
Lief_Webster_ 05-24-07, 05:56 PM	http://isildursbane.sam.googlepages.com/3d4damage%3F%21i%27llbuythatforafeat%21 I call it: The Beholder-On-A-Stick-On-A-Mind-Flayer-On-A-Crossbow! Damage: 1d10 + 32d12 + 1d8 + 22d6 (I know it's pretty messy, but I'm not that good at using paint/paintshop to make images. You still get the idea.)
frasmage 05-24-07, 06:54 PM	http://isildursbane.sam.googlepages.com/3d4damage%3F%21i%27llbuythatforafeat%21 I call it: The Beholder-On-A-Stick-On-A-Mind-Flayer-On-A-Crossbow! Damage: 1d10 + 32d12 + 1d8 + 22d6 (I know it's pretty messy, but I'm not that good at using paint/paintshop to make images. You still get the idea.) your link does not work
Nat_20 05-24-07, 07:06 PM	Yeah, notta thing showing up but this "The page you have requested could not be found. (404)" Damn androids, controlling what we can look at...
Lief_Webster_ 05-24-07, 07:32 PM	http://isildursbane.sam.googlepages.com/home Maybe this one will work... EDIT: It works for me. Click on the "3d4 damage!? I'll buy that for a feat!" link. Double Edit: Oops, no it doesn't. Sorry. I'll try to get it up later.
xanadu 05-25-07, 12:35 AM	Thanks a bunch the taken. I present: http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa261/grimreapercactus/crossbowofawesomeness.jpg :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
GhostStepper 05-25-07, 01:06 AM	you would most likely attack yourself 4 times, and get a free trip attempt against yourself... great weapon, as long as you don't use it :P That gave me the best idea for a cursed spiked chain!
RobbyPants 05-25-07, 10:27 AM	How about a crossbow that shoots Invisible Christopher Walken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcU2-Fm8wVQ) wielding a scimitar? I present to you: The Scimitar-wielding Invisible Christopher Walken Crossbow!!! http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/robbypants/ScimitarwieldingInvisibleChristophe.jpg This is particularly scary, because he's the secret end boss of D&D. He doesn't even really need the scimitar. It's just for effect.
Lakaniss 05-28-07, 11:23 PM	Bumb !
Grimmsfeld 05-29-07, 01:24 AM	http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/148/b/a/Nun_Chucks_by_Grimmsfeld.jpgNorris claims page six.
Saberus 05-29-07, 02:41 AM	http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6123/chainofretardox0.png (http://imageshack.us) Or http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/148/b/a/Nun_Chucks_by_Grimmsfeld.jpg I can't decide! Both are made of pure, crystalline win! I'm human! I can just take two Exotic Weapon Proficiency feats! (or is it Neurotic Weapon Proficiency?)
Watchman 05-29-07, 07:55 AM	http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/148/b/a/Nun_Chucks_by_Grimmsfeld.jpgWould this be Dire ROUNDHOUSE KICK ? ...and you know the sad part ? That actually sounds pretty much like a valid Feat name...
the_taken 05-29-07, 11:30 AM	So does 'Detonating Two-weapon Fighting'. Detonating Two-weapon Fighting YOUR SWORDS EXPLODE WHEN YOU HIT!!! Prerequisites: Improved Two-weapon Fighting, Over sized Two-weapon fighting, Power Attack, Skill Focus (Alchemy), Two-weapon Fighting, Explosive Spell, ability to cast a spell with the [FIRE] descriptor or possess the Fire subtype Benefit: Whenever you strike an opponent with each weapon you wield, you may make a special exploding weapon strike. Make a melee touch attack against that opponent, and if you succeed, it takes 1d6 damage for every two points of BAB you have, half of which is bludgeoning and the other half is fire. Additionally, it must make a reflex save with a DC equal to BAB/2 + STR mod + the sum of your weapon's enhancements bonuses, or move back 10ft and fall prone. Special: Detonating Two-weapon Fighting may be selected as a Fighter Bonus Feat.
lawfullygoodhotdogs 05-29-07, 01:50 PM	yeah i would go wit 3D4 dammage .
Flay Crimsonwind 05-29-07, 09:39 PM	yeah i would go wit 3D4 dammage .LOL, reality returns. Aw man. Did someone invade the summerhome of Chuck Norris and Mr. T when making this thread? The Roundhouse kick chucks reminded me: If, by some incredible space-time paradox, Chuck Norris would ever fight himself, he'd win. Period. To expand on that, Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth and boils the water with his own rage, It takes 14 puppeteers to make Chuck Norris smile, but only 2 to make him destroy an orphanage, Chuck Norris can touch MC Hammer, and It takes Chuck Norris 20 minutes to watch 60 Minutes. And Chuck Norris can divide by zero.
captianhowdy 05-29-07, 09:48 PM	LOL, reality returns. Aw man. Did someone invade the summerhome of Chuck Norris and Mr. T when making this thread? The Roundhouse kick chucks reminded me: If, by some incredible space-time paradox, Chuck Norris would ever fight himself, he'd win. Period. To expand on that, Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth and boils the water with his own rage, It takes 14 puppeteers to make Chuck Norris smile, but only 2 to make him destroy an orphanage, Chuck Norris can touch MC Hammer, and It takes Chuck Norris 20 minutes to watch 60 Minutes. And Chuck Norris can divide by zero. Dear god no! its turning into Barrens Chat!!!!
Flay Crimsonwind 05-29-07, 09:59 PM	To fix it, how about a more ridiculous weapon, but less in build; Staff-Chucks. http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=031220 Brian's a ****ing genius.
Fireclave 05-30-07, 01:11 AM	To fix it, how about a more ridiculous weapon, but less in build; Staff-Chucks. http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=031220 Brian's a ****ing genius. Now I know what I want for X-mas :D
Saberus 05-31-07, 02:10 AM	Brian's a ****ing genius. QFT
RobbyPants 05-31-07, 11:33 AM	To fix it, how about a more ridiculous weapon, but less in build; Staff-Chucks. http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=031220 Brian's a ****ing genius. They should build those with two rods of wonder! :P
vonklaude 05-31-07, 11:46 AM	*bows down to the magnific laughersome sticky figures* Now seriously, as a DM, I'd set it as an exotic weapon with causes (3d3)+1 points of damage (two handed fo course). With a minumum damage of 4 (1 for each dagger +1 for the weight of the weapon) and a maximum damage of 10. Critical rate being x2 (only with 20) and not keen edge'able (since it lacks edges ^^). D: Appealing as it is to go with stick-figure logic, an awful lot of the effort in melee weapon making goes into focussing the maximum force through the minimum area. That's why bullets are so very good and pillows so very crappy. So you are kind of stuck with Trident d8. OTOH those were _very_ persuasive drawings... Aiiee, I posted before getting to Dire-Tarrasque. I retract my arguments and offer my players the 3d4 weapons of their choosing, and count myself let off lightly.
Koretsu 05-31-07, 10:31 PM	I'll see your Dire Round House Kick and raise you: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/Koretsu/DireHecaton.jpg This fierce weapon can only be wielded by a Hecatoncheires. It requires two hands to wield, and thus, a Hecatoncheiries can wield 50 of them at a time. At each end of the chain is another Hecatoncheires. All Hecatoncheires have all thier normal powers and abilities, including Summon Hecatoncheires. Each summoned Hecatoncheires also wields this weapon. (Forgive the quality. Did it in a rush)
Nat_20 05-31-07, 10:33 PM	My eyes just EXPLODED!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH... no really, Oh My GOD!!!
John_of_Ark 05-31-07, 11:24 PM	Koretsu, your post just killed god and damned humanity to an eternity of suffering under our Hecatoncheir overlords. Our only hope is to call upon the powers of Chuck Norris dual wielding Vin Diesel and Mr. T, for he truly is the only man, nay, god, that could defeat such a monstrosity.
Peregrine_Wolf 06-17-07, 07:08 PM	There should SO be chuck-chucks.......with more chuck added on for a little more fun.....maybe some whipped cream of fudge on top..... This thread IS awesome and digital win..... =)
Magon 06-25-07, 03:51 PM	http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/magon_p/lolcatsdotcomii3o5tqyqzkqa4gb.jpg
MoonSprite 06-29-07, 02:50 AM	I'll see your Dire Round House Kick and raise you: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/Koretsu/DireHecaton.jpg This fierce weapon can only be wielded by a Hecatoncheires. It requires two hands to wield, and thus, a Hecatoncheiries can wield 50 of them at a time. At each end of the chain is another Hecatoncheires. All Hecatoncheires have all thier normal powers and abilities, including Summon Hecatoncheires. Each summoned Hecatoncheires also wields this weapon. (Forgive the quality. Did it in a rush) Oh god, did you hear that? I think it broke the game!:P And for the record, although the Hecas are pure pwnage, I would prefer this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/thegreatestnightmare/DireTarrasque.jpg ...just bcs you would actually have to go from Greyhawk to FR or Eberron in order to get the 2nd tarrasque:D
Throg 06-29-07, 09:02 AM	Oh god, did you hear that? I think it broke the game!:P And for the record, although the Hecas are pure pwnage, I would prefer this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/thegreatestnightmare/DireTarrasque.jpg ...just bcs you would actually have to go from Greyhawk to FR or Eberron in order to get the 2nd tarrasque:D Do you get two free horses with every purchase of the Dire Tarrasque? Or do they wessle that into the price?
Saberus 06-29-07, 12:35 PM	not to be too nitpicky, but if you attach the hecas and the Tarrasque by their tails, wouldn't they hurt more? even worse, awakened Tarrasque wielding greatswords (or Jovar!). :eek: :plotting: could I get the above as a custom order weapon, plz?
Sajek 06-29-07, 06:21 PM	http://usera.imagecave.com/shinycars/ThisThreadRocks.jpg
koiulpoi 06-29-07, 10:53 PM	http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa261/grimreapercactus/crossbowofawesomeness.jpg is probably my favorite. It got better after I noticed the crossbow. Oh, and about the Staff-Chucks - look closely at the bottom of the page and see who made that comic. This thread is so much win.
Firestar27 11-10-07, 06:26 PM	But multi shot fires two arrows right? Each doing D8. More arrows more damage. More daggers?!?! But each dagger doesn't stab in and each dagger doesn't have the force of one stab. The force is shared between the daggers and it appears to be a slashing weapon. Even if you stabbed, the force would be shared. I would say it is an exotic form of the trident, so 1d10.
Adrian_Crane 11-10-07, 09:39 PM	This is the best thread. Ever.
Thor_Axe 11-11-07, 10:07 AM	'Tis a foul and stoopid feat and offensive in the eyes of JHVH. Shouldst thou see it shalt thou throw into into the deepest abysses of the fathomless sea tied to a large, pious rock (a drunken Dwarf will do in a pinch) lest it rise again to befoul the sunny lands of living. Do you know that you just threw a feat into the ocean attached to a very religious stone? What exactly was that supposed to do? Just because its at the bottom of the ocean, doesnt mean I cant give my rigged ranger that feat.
Thor_Axe 11-11-07, 10:48 AM	not to be too nitpicky, but if you attach the hecas and the Tarrasque by their tails, wouldn't they hurt more? even worse, awakened Tarrasque wielding greatswords (or Jovar!). :eek: :plotting: could I get the above as a custom order weapon, plz? Why are they wielding greatswords... why arent they wielding Dragons. Enlarged Awakened Tarrasque (Via Wish) dual wields Ancient Wyrm Gold Dragos who are both using breath weapons and bite attacks and tail slaps and dual wielding [BAwakened[/B] Krakens who are using their natural attacks for the spiked tentacles and wielding 6 Giants each with their "arms". All of these Giants are wielding a total of 24 Ogres who are wielding 48 Orcs who are wielding 96 Kobolds who are all wielding 192 medium greataxes. This does a grand total of 192d12+38str(Tarrasque)+8d8+18str(Bite)+ 8d8+18str(Wings)+8d6+27str(Tailslap)+8d8 +48str(Kraken) Thats an average of 1421 dmg. Since this is kinda like a whip, Im going to say this does non-lethal damage. Maybe not. All of these creatures are attached via Sovereign Glue. And they all have all of the appropriate feats inorder to do what is needed. For added fun make 8 of them and give them to Hextor. Proceed to have him attack pun-pun. Wheres your inifite loop now? Anyone want to make a picture of this? In conclusion, I love this game. And thread. Just think this all started with stick figures with some daggers. Blown out of proportion? Yes. Awsome? Of course.
swccgf 11-11-07, 12:00 PM	Some people are still trying to take this thread seriously. HAHAHA
elgrabadula 11-11-07, 02:35 PM	Oh god, did you hear that? I think it broke the game!:P And for the record, although the Hecas are pure pwnage, I would prefer this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/thegreatestnightmare/DireTarrasque.jpg ...just bcs you would actually have to go from Greyhawk to FR or Eberron in order to get the 2nd tarrasque:D well at this pont both tarrasques should be dual weilding heca-chucks
Saberus 11-12-07, 03:00 PM	Why are they wielding greatswords... why arent they wielding Dragons. Enlarged Awakened Tarrasque (Via Wish) dual wields Ancient Wyrm Gold Dragos who are both using breath weapons and bite attacks and tail slaps and dual wielding [BAwakened[/B] Krakens who are using their natural attacks for the spiked tentacles and wielding 6 Giants each with their "arms". All of these Giants are wielding a total of 24 Ogres who are wielding 48 Orcs who are wielding 96 Kobolds who are all wielding 192 medium greataxes. This does a grand total of 192d12+38str(Tarrasque)+8d8+18str(Bite)+ 8d8+18str(Wings)+8d6+27str(Tailslap)+8d8 +48str(Kraken) Thats an average of 1421 dmg. Since this is kinda like a whip, Im going to say this does non-lethal damage. Maybe not. All of these creatures are attached via Sovereign Glue. And they all have all of the appropriate feats inorder to do what is needed. For added fun make 8 of them and give them to Hextor. Proceed to have him attack pun-pun. Wheres your inifite loop now? Anyone want to make a picture of this? In conclusion, I love this game. And thread. Just think this all started with stick figures with some daggers. Blown out of proportion? Yes. Awsome? Of course. :bow: :surrender :bow:
RobbyPants 11-12-07, 04:41 PM	:b::b::b: Hooray for internet necromancy! :b::b::b: I forgot all about this thread!
Dog_O_War 11-12-07, 07:00 PM	What's really funny is that some people are still trying to argue that three daggers on a stick wouldn't work. http://oz3d.com/images/norris.jpg It's all the weapon you'll ever need.
LordBOB777 11-13-07, 01:05 AM	Dude. I bet you could use some sovereign glue to stick a kobold to the end of a mace, or something else suitably nasty and ill-tempered (maybe a dire maggot) on the end of a really long pole and just dangle it near your enemy. ROTFLMMFAO that is priceless. seriously though, this thread is pure awesomeness EDIT: I posted this before i read the entire thread. Never before have i laughed at something so funny. To the OP, I salute thee, for the awesomeness thou has giveith us.
danste01 11-14-07, 11:38 AM	I was sitting at work and I was thinking. How do the RAW deal with this?! (point being that I want to make a set of claw weapons that are essentialy 4 daggers). http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled.jpg D4 DAMAGE! http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled2.jpg 2D4 DAMAGE! http://www.nat20games.com/myspace/Untitled3.jpg 3D4 DAMAGE?? Is that not a trident?:confused:
Jprostovich 11-26-07, 10:40 PM	I would simply keep the dagger damage yet increase the crit range and or multiplier. Even if you score a hit with your trident/dagger/claw, you might not hit with each blade at a time, and if you use it in a claw like manner you will be striking in a sweeping glancing motion, not the piercing motion of a dagger. Manyshot is a feat that allows you to hit with multiple arrows with one attack roll. There-in lies the difference of the dagger vs manyshot. The feat is a trick or special ability, not an innate property of the weapon itself. Hilarious stick figures however
Tryble 11-27-07, 04:13 AM	Uh... You guys that are seriously responding should probably check out the other pages real quick.
Istar_Rosme 12-05-07, 07:50 AM	[CENTER]I was sitting at work and I was thinking. How do the RAW deal with this?! (point being that I want to make a set of claw weapons that are essentialy 4 daggers). It's not the amount of points on a piercing weapon that determines the amount of damage. It will always be the amount of a person you hit with a strike. I.E. a club will heat a large surface, a sword will slash a relatively large line across a body part, a spear will pierce through a person and/or its innards. if you instead make a special feature i.e. internal bleeding if you spend an action to turn the dagger once it is inside I would say you have a more realistic approach. Of course it would take a strength check to turn the dagger since it can be a rather difficult move. But then again isn't that sort of like sneak attack?
RobbyPants 12-05-07, 10:42 AM	Uh... You guys that are seriously responding should probably check out the other pages real quick. That reminds me of the 'Can Elves Wield Greatswords' thread from last year. There was about 30 pages of people debating on what race was the most manly, and which was the least, and what weapons they could and could not use. IIRC, orc werewolves were the most manly, and vampire elves were the least. Anyway, peppered thorughout those 30 pages were single posts, where someone responded very matter-of-fact to the OP, totally ignoring the other 30 pages of spam. It was pretty funny. Post #304 - Vampire elves are the least manly race, they can only use rapiers. Post #305 - Can a werewolf orc use a rapier? Post #306 - No, and neither can a dwarf. They have to use greatswords or greataxes. Post #307 - Yes, an elf can use a greatsword. There's nothing in the PHB stopping them from doing so. Post #308 - Dude, what are you talking about? Have you read the last 30 pages? Elves aren't manly enough! You get the idea. :P Just for the record, this thread is made of pure distilled win.
aotrscommander 12-05-07, 11:32 AM	So, this seems an appropriate time to upgrade the previous ultimate weapon... (Pun-Pun duel wielding +987 flaming, icy, shocking, thundering burst, vorpal Awakened DeathStar CoDzilla-chucks) ...to... A +90011 uranium/neutronium/unobtainium acidic, flaming, icy, psychokinetic, shocking burst, collision Awakened DeathStar Viking CoDzilla-chucks, two each attached to Dire Undead Robot Ninja Pirate Space Cave Man Pun-Pun-chucks dual wielded by Chuck Norris standing on a Light-Sabre Katana held by Bruce Lee shot out of a Gatling Ballista fired by Mr T. On fire. ... No, I don't expect anyone to be able to draw that. 1Because of course, it's over nine thousaaaaand!
teamfireyleader 12-05-07, 05:48 PM	http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/teamfireyleader/taruskechuck.jpg Okay! which wizard was it this time?!?!?!? Own up! (plus where do you get bigger dragons?) Edit; This is the first time i have ever done image editing so please don't flame me for creating a terrible pic.
Srg_Pain 12-06-07, 04:55 PM	This is why I should not click links in peoples sigs... This thread is far to great for me to comprehend. :cool:
Thor_Axe 12-28-07, 06:49 AM	http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/teamfireyleader/taruskechuck.jpg Okay! which wizard was it this time?!?!?!? Own up! (plus where do you get bigger dragons?) Edit; This is the first time i have ever done image editing so please don't flame me for creating a terrible pic. On the subject of wizards, this is why epic wizards should not be able (much less forced) to create their own spells. (Lazy WOTC) The only picture I could find of bigger dragons was a red one (from the size comparison in DMG(?)) but thank you kindly for trying. It would have been too much awsome for one picture.
Sakaki22 12-28-07, 02:40 PM	For the sake of helping this thread die, I decided I'd try to draw... A +9001 uranium/neutronium/unobtainium acidic, flaming, icy, psychokinetic, shocking burst, collision Awakened DeathStar Viking CoDzilla-chucks, two each attached to Dire Undead Robot Ninja Pirate Space Cave Man Pun-Pun-chucks dual wielded by Chuck Norris standing on a Light-Sabre Katana held by Bruce Lee shot out of a Gatling Ballista fired by Mr T. On fire. Except I can't figure out how to draw a CoDZilla made out of uranium. Like, a Uranium Warforged Cleric, maybe. Or a character sheet for a Druid20 made out of a sheet of uranium. Once I figure it out, I'll put it on my deviantArt.
MERC_1 06-02-08, 08:09 PM	Sigh. 1d4 Dagger is a Simple Light Melee Weapon that does 1d4 with 19-20/×2 crit. In order to do more damage with 2, 3, 4, 99 daggers your only option is to do one of the following: 1) increase the type (Light -> One Handed -> Two Handed.) 2) increase the complexity (Simple -> Martial -> Exotic) 3) decrease the crit (19-20 -> 20) 4) add a severe drawback (-1 to all attacks)All this is correct, but the OP asked for a Exotic weapon, so lets give him one! Look at this thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=694416 I'm looking! :) Relative Encumbrance Special Attributes Light Melee Weapon -25% Exotic Proficiency Required -5% One-Handed Melee Weapon -30% Thrown (10ft base range) 6% Two-Handed Melee Weapon -40% Thrown (per +5ft range) +2% Ranged Weapon: Project -35% Thrown (counts as ammo) +10% Ranged Weapon: Thrown -25% Trip 5% Unarmed -25% Disarm Bonus (per +2) 5% Cannot Be Disarmed 5% Damage Dice (medium) Non-Lethal Damage 5% 1d2 0% Damage Type (option) 2% 1d3 5% Damage Type (multiple) 5% 1d4 10% Monk Special Weapon 5% 1d6 15% 1d8 20% Melee Weapon Attributes 2d4 22% Reach 5% 1d10 25% Reach (Inclusive) +5% 1d12 28% Set Against Charge 2% 2d6 30% Weapon Finesse (non-light) 5% 2d8 34% Double Weapon 15% 2d10 40% Shield As Weapon 10% Extra Specialized Abilities -10% to +10% Critical Threat/Multiplier 20/x2 5% Projectile Weapon Attributes 20/x3 10% Projectile (under 100ft) 0% 20/x4 15% Projectile (100ft+)[drawback] 0% 19-20/x2 10% Reload (full-round action) 0% 18-20/x2 15% Reload (move action) 5% Reload (free action) 10% Reload (free/full hybrid) 5% 3d4 = 3*2.5 = 7.5 = 1d14 [not 1d15] = 7.5 = (1+14)/2 2d6 = 2*3.5 = 7 = 1d13 2d8 = 2*4,5 = 9 = 1d17 I like math... 2d6 = 7 (30%) 3d4 = 7.5 (32% ?) 2d8 = 9 (34%) So this is your 3d4 "dagger": Triple Death Dagger 3d4 (100+32 = 132%) Exotic One Handed weapon (-5 -30 = -35%) 20x2 (It's hard to crit with...) (+5%) 132 -35 + 5 = 102% Powerfull but not unbalanced! Weapon Percentages: [95% to 105% = Fine] 101% – Axe, throwing / Bolas 102% – Spear / Guisarme / Ranseur 103% – Spiked armor / Trident / Greataxe 104% – Dagger / Halberd / Scythe / Urgrosh, dwarven 105% – Flail / Flail, heavy / Greatsword / Flail, dire / Longbow So it's on par with the Spear, but less powerfull then a normal dagger! :D
Last_Chronomancer 06-02-08, 08:31 PM	Someone posted earlier a picture of an axe thing with four heads. The funny thing is, one of my players (Beguiler) had that before I read this thread :P
Lancer_Bloodlust 06-02-08, 10:25 PM	Merc, how on earth did you even find this thread when the last post was over 6 months ago?!!! My threads all seem to make it to page 6 within three days...
MERC_1 06-03-08, 06:53 AM	Merc, how on earth did you even find this thread when the last post was over 6 months ago?!!! My threads all seem to make it to page 6 within three days...You don't read all the pages? I thought that was mandatory! :D No, I stumbeled upon this on Google... It was on page 101... Google is much better at searching these forums then the search funktion! Wierd but true! :(
Lancer_Bloodlust 06-06-08, 03:44 PM	I suppose there is another 14 pages of unexplored territory on the monsters forum that I haven't ventured into....
MERC_1 06-07-08, 02:17 PM	I suppose there is another 14 pages of unexplored territory on the monsters forum that I haven't ventured into....Yes, but before you wenture too deep... ;) Triple Death Dagger 3d4 Exotic One Handed weapon 20x2 (It's hard to crit with...) Powerfull but not unbalanced!So what do you think of this apperently balanced(?) weapon? I would probably rather have a rapier or a 2-handed weapon in most cases...
Corian_Aerdeth 06-07-08, 07:18 PM	On the other hand, I want a three-dagger toilet plunger. On the same hand, I can think of a few instances where it would be useful. http://www.sptimes.com/2005/02/24/Southpinellas/Trouble_for_the_Tidy_.shtml http://www.freakingnews.com/Toilet-Snake-Pictures-21624.asp And just think, it would be worse without true plumbing, as in a medieval setting!!
MERC_1 06-07-08, 10:23 PM	On the same hand, I can think of a few instances where it would be useful. http://www.sptimes.com/2005/02/24/Southpinellas/Trouble_for_the_Tidy_.shtml http://www.freakingnews.com/Toilet-Snake-Pictures-21624.asp And just think, it would be worse without true plumbing, as in a medieval setting!!Well the snakes would not hurt you unless you did somthing stupid, as sitting on the toilet... So why would you hurt them in the first place? Most of them are endangerd anyway! ;) But my Triple Death Dagger was not intended as a joke even if most of this thread is! So I would not have any brooms or plumbers attached...
Thor_Axe 09-13-08, 10:16 PM	Why hast though resurrected this thread? That is just cruel and unusual punishment to those that really dont want to keep up with everything that is actually related to the thread. But, despite all your fancy math and other such wizardry that I choose to ignore, I still dont think that it would be a balanced weapon. One piece of argument is that if it was a balanced weapon, why is there nothing quite so powerful it the starting weapons? It does far more damage than anything else like it. Most of the pole arms have big disadvantages, the majority of which is range, but this one just cant be salvaged by saying that it is sundered easily. Even as an exotic weapon, nothing else measures up.
Dauthi_Overseer 09-14-08, 01:02 AM	Ignore me.
MythicArcher 09-14-08, 04:52 PM	Sorry to be "That Guy" but the triple dagger is a WoTC weapon... Triple dagger 10gp 1d4 19-20x2 1lb +3 on disarm Exotic It's supposed to be used in the off hand for disarming... not to attack (with (It's from Sword and Fist 3.0)
rex_subterrae1008 09-15-08, 08:46 AM	What's next, swordchucks?
RobbyPants 09-15-08, 05:29 PM	Awesome!!! I totally forgot about this thread What's next, swordchucks? No, but I did post a Nunchuck Bow a few pages back. http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/robbypants/nunchuckbow.jpg And also my personal favorite, The Deadly Spiked Sap!!! http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/robbypants/spikedsap.jpg
sigma999 09-21-08, 04:24 AM	I never forgot about this thread. After laughing that hard, who could! Could have sworn it was in the "Regdar Repository" or something before the post-4e mixup though.