A couple questions that relate to the topic of this Forum... [Archive] - Wizards Community

A couple questions that relate to the topic of this Forum... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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SOKAR
11-01-04, 09:48 PM 1) Whats the point of the hand crossbow? (Why not just use a sling?)

2) Can I reload a crossbow\sling while i am holding a shield?

3) This dose not really belong, but: What happened to Rapid Reload: Sling?
FitzNighteyes
11-01-04, 11:21 PM 1) Whats the point of the hand crossbow? (Why not just use a sling?)It's a piercing weapon, which allows you to deliver some poisons. You can also fire two at once (one time only) if you have to. Also, after seeing #3, you can use it when you get more than 1 attack per round with Rapid Reload.
2) Can I reload a crossbow\sling while I am holding a shield?If it is a buckler or small shield, but IMO you won't get the AC bonus if you do (that's probably gonna start a debate).
3) This dose not really belong, but: What happened to Rapid Reload: Sling?They nixed it. I guess slings were overpowered with more than one attack per roun.
Fixxxer
11-01-04, 11:41 PM 1) Whats the point of the hand crossbow? (Why not just use a sling?)

Among other things, there's a definate role-playing aspect. A similar question might be "Why would anyone want to use a heavy mace when they could use a morningstar?" A morningstar is cheaper, lighter and does bludgeoning and piercing damage.

The answer is that many people see their PC using a heavy mace instead of a morningstar. Simarily, many people see their PC using a hand crossbow over a sling.

2) Can I reload a crossbow\sling while i am holding a shield?

According to the SRD, you can still use your shield hand for other things (like loading a crossbow), so long as you're using a shield smaller than a heavy shield.

3) This dose not really belong, but: What happened to Rapid Reload: Sling?

Dunno. If you want it, you might just add the sling to the list of weapons the feat can be applied to.
FitzNighteyes
11-02-04, 01:21 AM Among other things, there's a definate role-playing aspect. A similar question might be "Why would anyone want to use a heavy mace when they could use a morningstar?" A morningstar is cheaper, lighter and does bludgeoning and piercing damage.And is sundered more easily. Personally, I like maces way more.
Sensei Gith
11-02-04, 05:04 PM Hand crossbows should be simple as well. Roleplaying is no excuse for broken mechanics.
FitzNighteyes
11-03-04, 12:18 PM Hand crossbows should be simple as well. Roleplaying is no excuse for broken mechanics.Change it. It's your game.

Personally, I like that some weapons are Exotic just because they are exotic (or unusual) weapons, even if they aren't mechanically superior. But then I hate Monks as a standardized class too. ;)
Thorak
11-03-04, 12:47 PM Hand crossbows should be simple as well. Roleplaying is no excuse for broken mechanics.
I agree wholeheartedly. If a weapon is mechanically simple to use, it should be a Simple weapon. A hand crossbow isn't any harder to use than a light crossbow. Ergo, it should be a Simple weapon.

Rarity shouldn't be an issue.

Exotic should mean weird/hard to use. Double weapons, over-heavy weapons (like the bastard sword, for one-handers, and things like the Greatspear from CW for two-handers), et cetera.
CuCulain42
11-03-04, 01:01 PM 1) Whats the point of the hand crossbow? (Why not just use a sling?)

As someone who usually plays a character with strength as my dump stat I can tell you that the hand crossbow damage isn't effected by strength; a sling is. :twocents:
Fixxxer
11-03-04, 06:00 PM Rarity shouldn't be an issue.

So you're saying that alomst all of the monk weapons should be simple weapons, since a kama isn't any more difficult to use than a sickle?
Sensei Gith
11-03-04, 09:00 PM So you're saying that alomst all of the monk weapons should be simple weapons, since a kama isn't any more difficult to use than a sickle?
Kama means sickle. It's not a matter of difficulty; they're the same thing. They shouldn't be listed seperately in the first place.

Numchucks are not as easy to use as, say, a dagger.

Sai would be balanced as simple weapons, and they're just pronged pieces of metal. No reason for them to be exotic.

And what in the nine hells is a siangham?

A better solution might be to loosen the flurry restrictions. IMC, monks can flurry with any light or double weapon. They have to take the proficiency feat anyway, and it removes a lot of the special-casing. Another feat allows them to use one-handed weapons.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
SOKAR 11-01-04, 09:48 PM	1) Whats the point of the hand crossbow? (Why not just use a sling?) 2) Can I reload a crossbow\sling while i am holding a shield? 3) This dose not really belong, but: What happened to Rapid Reload: Sling?
FitzNighteyes 11-01-04, 11:21 PM	1) Whats the point of the hand crossbow? (Why not just use a sling?)It's a piercing weapon, which allows you to deliver some poisons. You can also fire two at once (one time only) if you have to. Also, after seeing #3, you can use it when you get more than 1 attack per round with Rapid Reload. 2) Can I reload a crossbow\sling while I am holding a shield?If it is a buckler or small shield, but IMO you won't get the AC bonus if you do (that's probably gonna start a debate). 3) This dose not really belong, but: What happened to Rapid Reload: Sling?They nixed it. I guess slings were overpowered with more than one attack per roun.
Fixxxer 11-01-04, 11:41 PM	1) Whats the point of the hand crossbow? (Why not just use a sling?) Among other things, there's a definate role-playing aspect. A similar question might be "Why would anyone want to use a heavy mace when they could use a morningstar?" A morningstar is cheaper, lighter and does bludgeoning and piercing damage. The answer is that many people see their PC using a heavy mace instead of a morningstar. Simarily, many people see their PC using a hand crossbow over a sling. 2) Can I reload a crossbow\sling while i am holding a shield? According to the SRD, you can still use your shield hand for other things (like loading a crossbow), so long as you're using a shield smaller than a heavy shield. 3) This dose not really belong, but: What happened to Rapid Reload: Sling? Dunno. If you want it, you might just add the sling to the list of weapons the feat can be applied to.
FitzNighteyes 11-02-04, 01:21 AM	Among other things, there's a definate role-playing aspect. A similar question might be "Why would anyone want to use a heavy mace when they could use a morningstar?" A morningstar is cheaper, lighter and does bludgeoning and piercing damage.And is sundered more easily. Personally, I like maces way more.
Sensei Gith 11-02-04, 05:04 PM	Hand crossbows should be simple as well. Roleplaying is no excuse for broken mechanics.
FitzNighteyes 11-03-04, 12:18 PM	Hand crossbows should be simple as well. Roleplaying is no excuse for broken mechanics.Change it. It's your game. Personally, I like that some weapons are Exotic just because they are exotic (or unusual) weapons, even if they aren't mechanically superior. But then I hate Monks as a standardized class too. ;)
Thorak 11-03-04, 12:47 PM	Hand crossbows should be simple as well. Roleplaying is no excuse for broken mechanics. I agree wholeheartedly. If a weapon is mechanically simple to use, it should be a Simple weapon. A hand crossbow isn't any harder to use than a light crossbow. Ergo, it should be a Simple weapon. Rarity shouldn't be an issue. Exotic should mean weird/hard to use. Double weapons, over-heavy weapons (like the bastard sword, for one-handers, and things like the Greatspear from CW for two-handers), et cetera.
CuCulain42 11-03-04, 01:01 PM	1) Whats the point of the hand crossbow? (Why not just use a sling?) As someone who usually plays a character with strength as my dump stat I can tell you that the hand crossbow damage isn't effected by strength; a sling is. :twocents:
Fixxxer 11-03-04, 06:00 PM	Rarity shouldn't be an issue. So you're saying that alomst all of the monk weapons should be simple weapons, since a kama isn't any more difficult to use than a sickle?
Sensei Gith 11-03-04, 09:00 PM	So you're saying that alomst all of the monk weapons should be simple weapons, since a kama isn't any more difficult to use than a sickle? Kama means sickle. It's not a matter of difficulty; they're the same thing. They shouldn't be listed seperately in the first place. Numchucks are not as easy to use as, say, a dagger. Sai would be balanced as simple weapons, and they're just pronged pieces of metal. No reason for them to be exotic. And what in the nine hells is a siangham? A better solution might be to loosen the flurry restrictions. IMC, monks can flurry with any light or double weapon. They have to take the proficiency feat anyway, and it removes a lot of the special-casing. Another feat allows them to use one-handed weapons.