Post/Author/DateTime	Post
joshmvii 11-29-07, 12:26 AM	First, when you're trying to disarm someone, you have to make opposed attack rolls. This includes everything a normal attack roll would include, right? Like BAB + strength mod + enhancement bonus, and all that? Next, if you use a charge to bull rush an enemy, you can only move them as far as your normal movement would allow, but say you charged from 20 feet, and you could charge 60 ft. total, you could move then another 40 feet, right? Not just another 10, since 30 is your 'normal' movement speed?
kuonji 11-29-07, 12:48 AM	For disarm, it's a normal attack roll, just like if you were trying to hit the guy instead of disarm them. Other modifiers may apply (2-hand weapon, size difference, etc.) but otherwise you use all your bonuses/penalties. The bull rush text says you cannot exceed your normal movement limit. On a charge, your movement limit is 2x your movement speed.
Tordak 11-29-07, 07:56 AM	Yes, it's opposed attack rolls and uses you full bonus plus any bonuses due to other considerations (size, 2-handed and light weapons). And yes, I would think you can move all your allowed movement for the round, but the description says '...your normal movement limit...', so I wonder if you'd consider 60 ft as you normal movement for a charge or be limited to 30ft as it is your normal move limit (in a sense, charge is not normal, it's listed as a special attack) . I'm inclined to think that the normal movement for a charge is up to double your base movement.
goawayugh 11-29-07, 08:43 AM	I would say that your 'normal movement limit' on a charge is your normal speed x2. That is what is 'normal' for a charge. Keep in mind though that to move them 40' you will have to win the opposed Str check by at least 35!!!If you beat the defender’s Strength check result, you push him back 5 feet. If you wish to move with the defender, you can push him back an additional 5 feet for each 5 points by which your check result is greater than the defender’s check result.