A simple question does the a belt of giant strenght and gauntlets of Ogre Power stack [Archive] - Wizards Community

A simple question does the a belt of giant strenght and gauntlets of Ogre Power stack [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
StrahdVonZarovich
10-27-06, 03:19 AM ? I said it in the title I believe.
CryoSilver
10-27-06, 03:23 AM No
StrahdVonZarovich
10-27-06, 03:26 AM No

And may I ask why, and by what rule are you basing your answer ?
Dhavaer
10-27-06, 03:29 AM Both of them give Enhancement bonuses. Bonuses of the same type do not stack, with the exception of dodge, unnamed, racial and sometimes circumstance.
StrahdVonZarovich
10-27-06, 03:30 AM Both of them give Enhancement bonuses. Bonuses of the same type do not stack, with the exception of dodge, unnamed, racial and sometimes circumstance.

But where is that rule written ?
RavenDrake
10-27-06, 03:46 AM From the basics section:

Stacking

In most cases, modifiers to a given check or roll stack (combine for a cumulative effect) if they come from different sources and have different types (or no type at all), but do not stack if they have the same type or come from the same source (such as the same spell cast twice in succession). If the modifiers to a particular roll do not stack, only the best bonus and worst penalty applies. Dodge bonuses and circumstance bonuses however, do stack with one another unless otherwise specified.
runestar
10-27-06, 04:59 AM If you do possess a hammer of thunderbolts however...;)
StrahdVonZarovich
10-27-06, 05:19 AM From the basics section:

Thanks for the SRD reference. But what I meant is, where is it written in the official books like y'know the DMG and the Players Handbook ? Someone got any idea about this ?

And what about the hammer of thunderbolts ?
Pindar
10-27-06, 05:55 AM Thanks for the SRD reference. But what I meant is, where is it written in the official books like y'know the DMG and the Players Handbook ? Someone got any idea about this ?

And what about the hammer of thunderbolts ?

To get full functionality from the Hammer of Thunderbolts you used to need both the Guntlets of Ogre Power and a Girdle of Giant Strength.

Does the Hammer of Thunderbolts exist anymore?
Archangel62
10-27-06, 06:03 AM To get full functionality from the Hammer of Thunderbolts you used to need both the Guntlets of Ogre Power and a Girdle of Giant Strength.

Does the Hammer of Thunderbolts exist anymore?

Yep, it's a minor artifact. The mention of the rules is right before the magic item section if memory serves.
Rulebook
10-27-06, 07:27 AM nobody reads the core books anymore. its all about the new cheese books.
Nom
10-27-06, 08:33 AM Thanks for the SRD reference. But what I meant is, where is it written in the official books like y'know the DMG and the Players Handbook ? Someone got any idea about this ?You did look up "stack" (actually "stacking effects") in the PH index, right? Hey, you can even find "stacking bonuses" in the DMG index.
DracoPhoenix
10-27-06, 11:06 AM http://www.d20srd.org/srd/theBasics.htm#modifiers

for the SRDs take on modifiers & stacking effects :)
tarkin
10-27-06, 02:01 PM Thanks for the SRD reference. But what I meant is, where is it written in the official books like y'know the DMG and the Players Handbook ? Someone got any idea about this ?

And what about the hammer of thunderbolts ?

The SRD reference is pretty much a word for word copy of the official books with certain things left out, such as the amount of XP it takes to level up and the expected gold per character level.

If it is in the SRD, it is in either the PHB or DMG. The SRD has no new stuff.

If you don't accept the SRD, then honestly you should not be accepting the PHB or DMG as 'proof'.
farscapesg1
10-27-06, 02:23 PM PHB page 171-172 has information on stacking effects of spells (and includes effects from other sources like magical items).
risner
10-27-06, 03:43 PM ? I said it in the title I believe.

No, and I have a question for you.

Why in the would would you even think they would stack for a fraction of a second?
StrahdVonZarovich
10-27-06, 05:09 PM Because I'm a power hungry munchkin ?
Jhaelen
10-27-06, 05:19 PM Because I'm a power hungry munchkin ?
...thought so ;)
StrahdVonZarovich
10-27-06, 07:19 PM ...thought so ;)

At least I admit it, and am honest about it contrary to certain of my fellow gamers.
strenoth
10-28-06, 01:27 PM Well, they did USED to stack back in 1st & second edition. So it's also easy for old school gamers to get confused ont he point.
Orion_Danthyer
10-28-06, 04:15 PM ? I said it in the title I believe.

No, they do not stack, like everyone has said, but i hope you havent forgotten that bull str. does not also stack with either of those items.
StrahdVonZarovich
11-02-06, 03:22 AM In fact I din't remember it, 'til you just reminded me thanks for the info Orion.
wonlee76
11-02-06, 11:41 AM Well, they did USED to stack back in 1st & second edition. So it's also easy for old school gamers to get confused ont he point.

Well, with respect to 2nd edition, they didn't stack either with the exception of the Hammer of Thunderbolts. 2nd edition gauntlets of ogre power gave 18/00 strength and the belts gave strength scores between 19 and 24. The bonuses from both didn't stack with each other except if you got your grubby little hands on the Hammber of Thunderbolts.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
StrahdVonZarovich 10-27-06, 03:19 AM	? I said it in the title I believe.
CryoSilver 10-27-06, 03:23 AM	No
StrahdVonZarovich 10-27-06, 03:26 AM	No And may I ask why, and by what rule are you basing your answer ?
Dhavaer 10-27-06, 03:29 AM	Both of them give Enhancement bonuses. Bonuses of the same type do not stack, with the exception of dodge, unnamed, racial and sometimes circumstance.
StrahdVonZarovich 10-27-06, 03:30 AM	Both of them give Enhancement bonuses. Bonuses of the same type do not stack, with the exception of dodge, unnamed, racial and sometimes circumstance. But where is that rule written ?
RavenDrake 10-27-06, 03:46 AM	From the basics section: Stacking In most cases, modifiers to a given check or roll stack (combine for a cumulative effect) if they come from different sources and have different types (or no type at all), but do not stack if they have the same type or come from the same source (such as the same spell cast twice in succession). If the modifiers to a particular roll do not stack, only the best bonus and worst penalty applies. Dodge bonuses and circumstance bonuses however, do stack with one another unless otherwise specified.
runestar 10-27-06, 04:59 AM	If you do possess a hammer of thunderbolts however...;)
StrahdVonZarovich 10-27-06, 05:19 AM	From the basics section: Thanks for the SRD reference. But what I meant is, where is it written in the official books like y'know the DMG and the Players Handbook ? Someone got any idea about this ? And what about the hammer of thunderbolts ?
Pindar 10-27-06, 05:55 AM	Thanks for the SRD reference. But what I meant is, where is it written in the official books like y'know the DMG and the Players Handbook ? Someone got any idea about this ? And what about the hammer of thunderbolts ? To get full functionality from the Hammer of Thunderbolts you used to need both the Guntlets of Ogre Power and a Girdle of Giant Strength. Does the Hammer of Thunderbolts exist anymore?
Archangel62 10-27-06, 06:03 AM	To get full functionality from the Hammer of Thunderbolts you used to need both the Guntlets of Ogre Power and a Girdle of Giant Strength. Does the Hammer of Thunderbolts exist anymore? Yep, it's a minor artifact. The mention of the rules is right before the magic item section if memory serves.
Rulebook 10-27-06, 07:27 AM	nobody reads the core books anymore. its all about the new cheese books.
Nom 10-27-06, 08:33 AM	Thanks for the SRD reference. But what I meant is, where is it written in the official books like y'know the DMG and the Players Handbook ? Someone got any idea about this ?You did look up "stack" (actually "stacking effects") in the PH index, right? Hey, you can even find "stacking bonuses" in the DMG index.
DracoPhoenix 10-27-06, 11:06 AM	http://www.d20srd.org/srd/theBasics.htm#modifiers for the SRDs take on modifiers & stacking effects :)
tarkin 10-27-06, 02:01 PM	Thanks for the SRD reference. But what I meant is, where is it written in the official books like y'know the DMG and the Players Handbook ? Someone got any idea about this ? And what about the hammer of thunderbolts ? The SRD reference is pretty much a word for word copy of the official books with certain things left out, such as the amount of XP it takes to level up and the expected gold per character level. If it is in the SRD, it is in either the PHB or DMG. The SRD has no new stuff. If you don't accept the SRD, then honestly you should not be accepting the PHB or DMG as 'proof'.
farscapesg1 10-27-06, 02:23 PM	PHB page 171-172 has information on stacking effects of spells (and includes effects from other sources like magical items).
risner 10-27-06, 03:43 PM	? I said it in the title I believe. No, and I have a question for you. Why in the would would you even think they would stack for a fraction of a second?
StrahdVonZarovich 10-27-06, 05:09 PM	Because I'm a power hungry munchkin ?
Jhaelen 10-27-06, 05:19 PM	Because I'm a power hungry munchkin ? ...thought so ;)
StrahdVonZarovich 10-27-06, 07:19 PM	...thought so ;) At least I admit it, and am honest about it contrary to certain of my fellow gamers.
strenoth 10-28-06, 01:27 PM	Well, they did USED to stack back in 1st & second edition. So it's also easy for old school gamers to get confused ont he point.
Orion_Danthyer 10-28-06, 04:15 PM	? I said it in the title I believe. No, they do not stack, like everyone has said, but i hope you havent forgotten that bull str. does not also stack with either of those items.
StrahdVonZarovich 11-02-06, 03:22 AM	In fact I din't remember it, 'til you just reminded me thanks for the info Orion.
wonlee76 11-02-06, 11:41 AM	Well, they did USED to stack back in 1st & second edition. So it's also easy for old school gamers to get confused ont he point. Well, with respect to 2nd edition, they didn't stack either with the exception of the Hammer of Thunderbolts. 2nd edition gauntlets of ogre power gave 18/00 strength and the belts gave strength scores between 19 and 24. The bonuses from both didn't stack with each other except if you got your grubby little hands on the Hammber of Thunderbolts.