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Phantem2 09-12-05, 09:57 PM	If you have multiple attacks because of BAB such as a 10th level fighter vampire, who wields a glaive. can yuo make your first attack using your glave at 10 feet, but can you then make a slam attack as your remaing attack against an adjasent foe, or can you only make a second attack with the glaive????
Inu 09-12-05, 10:16 PM	I see no reason why you wouldn't. In fact, isn't the official word that you can even mix together melee and ranged attacks? Your GM may have a problem with you using a two-handed weapon and then another held weapon, but I don't think there's anything in the rules against doing this. Though letting go of the haft with one hand may be counted as 'dropping' it, and you may be required to ready it again. If you have quickdraw, no such problem. :)
Colmarr 09-13-05, 02:44 AM	Slam attacks (and indeed all natural attacks) are considered secondary when wielding a manufactured weapon, and can be made in addition to your iterative attacks with a manufactured weapon. In the example given, the character would have a full attack routine of 2 glaive attacks (as per their BAB), and would then have 1 additional slam attack at a -5 penalty (or -2 if you have Multiattack). As the slam does not have reach, it could only be made against adjacent targets. But you can't "substitute" a slam attack for one of the glaive attacks. [Edit: It is commonly accepted that you lose a claw or slam attack if the limb is used to hold a manufactured weapon. This is a corner-case where your DM will need to decide whether to allow you to "loose" and then "grasp" the glaive so you can make slam attacks. I personally would allow it as a swift action, so every second round you would be unable to use the glaive for AoOs]
NeueRegel 09-13-05, 04:50 AM	Without bothering to be kind enough to look it up to link for ya's, in "Rules of the Game", under one of the AoO articles, it's stated that "letting go of a two handed weapon with one hand and then re-gripping it" are free actions, keeping in mind that free actions can be taken only on your turn. NeueRegel
slade_caizer 09-13-05, 04:56 AM	Yes, you can strike at two enemies this way. The better part of the 'equation' is that a slam is described as bludgeoning a target with a limb. It never specifies what limb. So you don't actually need to loose the glaive--though you could with no problem. The ability to briefly one-hand a bigger weapon (for holding, not for attacking) has long been used by arcanists also. Ever wonder why they can use a double/two-handed weapon like a staff and still cast spells? Because you only need one hand to gesture and one to keep tabs on the weapon. Have fun with that menace. :D