Adamantine Tools [Archive] - Wizards Community

Adamantine Tools [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Etiquette_Gnome
10-11-04, 10:27 AM If you happen to be a sculptor, making statues and other pieces of art out of solid stone, wouldn't adamantine provide you with an incredible tool for expedient sculpting? No longer do you have to spend extra time and forced effort to get past the toughness of stone (or steel for that matter), allowing you to carve that rock like it was sandstone.

Heck, the mining industry would have fun too when their tools go through rubble like crazy (still not on par with dynamite, but it sure beats using nomal ones).

Come to think of it, wouldn't a gem cutter get an easier time as well; though the time spent might be more exacting than the advantage of adamantine would provide...
Sae Cael Oanar
10-11-04, 07:20 PM by that logic, admantine would simply go through people, forget damage. i mean it doesnt matter how hard your axe is, it still takes a while to cut through a tree.
Thorak
10-11-04, 07:59 PM Also, look at the modern equivalent, diamond drills and blades. They can cut through just about anything, but harder materials still take them a long long time to cut through. They can just do so without being worn to a nub trying to make a scratch, like it would trying to use a steel bit/saw on the same surface.

Adamantine tools would be good because they don't get worn down or need sharpening anywhere near as quickly as anything else. They wouldn't, necessarily, cut through anything like butter.
masterofmayhem
10-11-04, 08:35 PM If you happen to be a sculptor, making statues and other pieces of art out of solid stone, wouldn't adamantine provide you with an incredible tool for expedient sculpting? No longer do you have to spend extra time and forced effort to get past the toughness of stone (or steel for that matter), allowing you to carve that rock like it was sandstone.

Makes sense.

Come to think of it, wouldn't a gem cutter get an easier time as well; though the time spent might be more exacting than the advantage of adamantine would provide...
With gems I would have to disagree. In gem cutting, it's probably more about precision than brute strength.

by that logic, admantine would simply go through people, forget damage.
Not if you think of HPs as an expenditure of energy used to keep oneself alive, rather than how anime treats it . . .
i mean it doesnt matter how hard your axe is, it still takes a while to cut through a tree.
Actually, by D&D rules, adamantine would ignore that tree's 5 hardness, making it significantly faster if you are low level.

Adamantine tools would be good because they don't get worn down or need sharpening anywhere near as quickly as anything else. They wouldn't, necessarily, cut through anything like butter.
Ah, but they do. In Salvatore's books, an adamantine sword cuts through stalactites like . . . butter. ;)
Edymnion
10-11-04, 08:42 PM Yup, adamantine in D&D is the equivolent of Adamantium in Marvel Comics, it cuts through anything. Yes, admantine tools would ignore the hardness of whatever it was cutting through, meaning it could carve stone as if you were cutting styrofoam.

I'd give ya +2 circumstance bonus to your craft checks when using Adm tools, but only in crafts that require a lot of hacking or chiseling of materials.
Loren Pechtel
10-12-04, 12:55 AM Yup, adamantine in D&D is the equivolent of Adamantium in Marvel Comics, it cuts through anything. Yes, admantine tools would ignore the hardness of whatever it was cutting through, meaning it could carve stone as if you were cutting styrofoam.

I'd give ya +2 circumstance bonus to your craft checks when using Adm tools, but only in crafts that require a lot of hacking or chiseling of materials.

Disagree. Adamantium overcomes the hardness but you still need to do damage to make the cut. It's just a lot easier, but it's nothing like effortless.
Neodymium
10-12-04, 01:27 AM I'm going to tell my DM about this.
Thorak
10-12-04, 07:41 AM Disagree. Adamantium overcomes the hardness but you still need to do damage to make the cut. It's just a lot easier, but it's nothing like effortless.
Exactly. A big chunk of stone is still going to have a lot of hit points, even if you're ignoring it's hardness. You'll just see bigger chunks coming out from an Adamantine tool, and the tool won't get dull very easily, if at all. Picture the difference between, say, a stone and a wood wall, when you hit it with a wood axe. The wood will spew big chunks, because it has minimal or no hardness, and the stone will fly off in itty bitty chips, making no real progress. Adamantine just makes everything have no hardness; you can probably hack through a metal wall as if it were wooden, but you're not going to be swiping it through effortlessly like your sword's a lightsaber or something ridiculous like that.

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Etiquette_Gnome 10-11-04, 10:27 AM	If you happen to be a sculptor, making statues and other pieces of art out of solid stone, wouldn't adamantine provide you with an incredible tool for expedient sculpting? No longer do you have to spend extra time and forced effort to get past the toughness of stone (or steel for that matter), allowing you to carve that rock like it was sandstone. Heck, the mining industry would have fun too when their tools go through rubble like crazy (still not on par with dynamite, but it sure beats using nomal ones). Come to think of it, wouldn't a gem cutter get an easier time as well; though the time spent might be more exacting than the advantage of adamantine would provide...
Sae Cael Oanar 10-11-04, 07:20 PM	by that logic, admantine would simply go through people, forget damage. i mean it doesnt matter how hard your axe is, it still takes a while to cut through a tree.
Thorak 10-11-04, 07:59 PM	Also, look at the modern equivalent, diamond drills and blades. They can cut through just about anything, but harder materials still take them a long long time to cut through. They can just do so without being worn to a nub trying to make a scratch, like it would trying to use a steel bit/saw on the same surface. Adamantine tools would be good because they don't get worn down or need sharpening anywhere near as quickly as anything else. They wouldn't, necessarily, cut through anything like butter.
masterofmayhem 10-11-04, 08:35 PM	If you happen to be a sculptor, making statues and other pieces of art out of solid stone, wouldn't adamantine provide you with an incredible tool for expedient sculpting? No longer do you have to spend extra time and forced effort to get past the toughness of stone (or steel for that matter), allowing you to carve that rock like it was sandstone. Makes sense. Come to think of it, wouldn't a gem cutter get an easier time as well; though the time spent might be more exacting than the advantage of adamantine would provide... With gems I would have to disagree. In gem cutting, it's probably more about precision than brute strength. by that logic, admantine would simply go through people, forget damage. Not if you think of HPs as an expenditure of energy used to keep oneself alive, rather than how anime treats it . . . i mean it doesnt matter how hard your axe is, it still takes a while to cut through a tree. Actually, by D&D rules, adamantine would ignore that tree's 5 hardness, making it significantly faster if you are low level. Adamantine tools would be good because they don't get worn down or need sharpening anywhere near as quickly as anything else. They wouldn't, necessarily, cut through anything like butter. Ah, but they do. In Salvatore's books, an adamantine sword cuts through stalactites like . . . butter. ;)
Edymnion 10-11-04, 08:42 PM	Yup, adamantine in D&D is the equivolent of Adamantium in Marvel Comics, it cuts through anything. Yes, admantine tools would ignore the hardness of whatever it was cutting through, meaning it could carve stone as if you were cutting styrofoam. I'd give ya +2 circumstance bonus to your craft checks when using Adm tools, but only in crafts that require a lot of hacking or chiseling of materials.
Loren Pechtel 10-12-04, 12:55 AM	Yup, adamantine in D&D is the equivolent of Adamantium in Marvel Comics, it cuts through anything. Yes, admantine tools would ignore the hardness of whatever it was cutting through, meaning it could carve stone as if you were cutting styrofoam. I'd give ya +2 circumstance bonus to your craft checks when using Adm tools, but only in crafts that require a lot of hacking or chiseling of materials. Disagree. Adamantium overcomes the hardness but you still need to do damage to make the cut. It's just a lot easier, but it's nothing like effortless.
Neodymium 10-12-04, 01:27 AM	I'm going to tell my DM about this.
Thorak 10-12-04, 07:41 AM	Disagree. Adamantium overcomes the hardness but you still need to do damage to make the cut. It's just a lot easier, but it's nothing like effortless. Exactly. A big chunk of stone is still going to have a lot of hit points, even if you're ignoring it's hardness. You'll just see bigger chunks coming out from an Adamantine tool, and the tool won't get dull very easily, if at all. Picture the difference between, say, a stone and a wood wall, when you hit it with a wood axe. The wood will spew big chunks, because it has minimal or no hardness, and the stone will fly off in itty bitty chips, making no real progress. Adamantine just makes everything have no hardness; you can probably hack through a metal wall as if it were wooden, but you're not going to be swiping it through effortlessly like your sword's a lightsaber or something ridiculous like that.