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Toast_recon
04-07-07, 04:41 PM I have searched a lot in the PHB, my only book, and have yet to find what the rules are for breaking things with adamantine weapons. Do they simply bypass hardness?
SALDAR
04-07-07, 05:07 PM Such weapons ignore hardness of less than 20.
Fireclave
04-07-07, 05:14 PM Such weapons ignore hardness of less than 20.
Which, to expand on what SALDAR said, is not the same thing as ignoring the first 20 points of hardness:

A object with 20 point of hardness effectively has 0 hardness with struck with an admantine weapon. An adamantine weapon will slice through it like butter.

A object with 21 point of hardness effectively has 21 hardness with struck with an admantine weapon. Striking with an adamantine weapon is no better than striking with a steel weapon in this case.
Toast_recon
04-07-07, 05:23 PM thank you so much. Is this in the PHB? Cause I am surprised I could have missed it.( Imagine how much time you spend examining ALL your books. That is how much I spend on the PHB.
Fireclave
04-07-07, 05:25 PM thank you so much. Is this in the PHB? Cause I am surprised I could have missed it.( Imagine how much time you spend examining ALL your books. That is how much I spend on the PHB.
It's in the special materials section of your DMG, and in the SRD (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialMaterials.htm#adamantine).
SALDAR
04-07-07, 05:26 PM It's in the Special Materials section of the Magic Item chapter in the DMG, as are all special materials.
Toast_recon
04-07-07, 05:28 PM hmmmm, I see. I don't have the DMG, but I am surprised I missed it in the SRD. Well thanks. I will probably not use it for my cleric who has a str of 7, but in future characters I might.
EDIT: The reason I was asking was for the next campaign I was planning to be a monk, whose fists,at 16th level, are treated as adamantine.( Can you honestly say breaking through a stone wall just by hitting it with your fists for a few hours doesn't appeal to you?
Nom
04-07-07, 10:02 PM A slight but important correction:A object with 2019 point of hardness effectively has 0 hardness with struck with an admantine weapon. An adamantine weapon will slice through it like butter.

A object with 2120 point of hardness effectively has 2120 hardness with struck with an admantine weapon. Striking with an adamantine weapon is no better than striking with a steel weapon in this case."ignores hardness less than 20" means that adamantine has no effect on 20 or more, not more than 20.

(Note: the second example was strictly correct, but didn't make the point it was supposed to make, so I edited it too)
Toast_recon
04-08-07, 12:16 PM "ignores hardness less than 20" means that adamantine has no effect on 20 or more, not more than 20.
That makes sense, cause otherwise adamantine would slice through adamantine like butter, which makes no sense.
Seriously, no one finds chooping your way through 3 feet of stone with your fists appealing? I think it will be my goal level:16th level.<jumps up and punches the wall, then regrets it and rolls on the floor in agony for 10 minutes>:weep: I got a boo boo mama! Kiss it and make it bettuh!:weep:
they shouldn't make walls so hard! when I was a boy one could punch through walls with ease!:rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
Fallenangel359
04-08-07, 03:52 PM I don't know why, but I always was amused by how a gnome with a 1d4+3 scimitar who is a warblade can make a concentration check, and do 60 points of damage to a wall, and if its an adamantine weapon, bypass hardness, completely decimating that wall
Toast_recon
04-09-07, 11:28 AM I don't know why, but I always was amused by how a gnome with a 1d4+3 scimitar who is a warblade can make a concentration check, and do 60 points of damage to a wall, and if its an adamantine weapon, bypass hardness, completely decimating that wall
...what if it was a monk gnome who could decimate a wall with his fists!By using flurry of blows and doing an average of 8 damage per attack with five attacks could do 40 damage! in two rounds(12 seconds) of super fast blows and bypassing hardness, she could decimate that wall in no-time. In two rounds she would have done more damage than the warblade without a concentration check with her fists. Just a thought.
RobbyPants
04-09-07, 11:58 AM EDIT: The reason I was asking was for the next campaign I was planning to be a monk, whose fists,at 16th level, are treated as adamantine.( Can you honestly say breaking through a stone wall just by hitting it with your fists for a few hours doesn't appeal to you?
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding how it works, but I don't think the monk's Ki strike (adamantine) ability actually treats your attacks like adamantine for purposes of damaging objects. It only treats them as adamantine (as well as lawful and magic, by that point) for purposes of overcoming damage reduction of monsters. This will be most useful against construcs, slaad, some demons, and the like, but not objects.
Toast_recon
04-09-07, 12:07 PM at 16th level her unarmed attacks are treated as adamantine for the purposeof dealing damage to creatures with damage reduction and bypassing hardness. Page 41 in the PHB.
Monk=awesome!
Fireclave
04-09-07, 12:09 PM Toast_recon is right.

Ki Strike (Su)

At 4th level, a monk’s unarmed attacks are empowered with ki. Her unarmed attacks are treated as magic weapons for the purpose of dealing damage to creatures with damage reduction. Ki strike improves with the character’s monk level. At 10th level, her unarmed attacks are also treated as lawful weapons for the purpose of dealing damage to creatures with damage reduction. At 16th level, her unarmed attacks are treated as adamantine weapons for the purpose of dealing damage to creatures with damage reduction and bypassing hardness.
Toast_recon
04-09-07, 12:25 PM booh-yah! become a monk and get through locks easy? Lock picking not a class skill? no problem, punch the lock 5 times in one round!wall in your way, give it a good headbutt!:banghead:
Wow, I have never used that smilie like that before!:bravo:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Toast_recon 04-07-07, 04:41 PM	I have searched a lot in the PHB, my only book, and have yet to find what the rules are for breaking things with adamantine weapons. Do they simply bypass hardness?
SALDAR 04-07-07, 05:07 PM	Such weapons ignore hardness of less than 20.
Fireclave 04-07-07, 05:14 PM	Such weapons ignore hardness of less than 20. Which, to expand on what SALDAR said, is not the same thing as ignoring the first 20 points of hardness: A object with 20 point of hardness effectively has 0 hardness with struck with an admantine weapon. An adamantine weapon will slice through it like butter. A object with 21 point of hardness effectively has 21 hardness with struck with an admantine weapon. Striking with an adamantine weapon is no better than striking with a steel weapon in this case.
Toast_recon 04-07-07, 05:23 PM	thank you so much. Is this in the PHB? Cause I am surprised I could have missed it.( Imagine how much time you spend examining ALL your books. That is how much I spend on the PHB.
Fireclave 04-07-07, 05:25 PM	thank you so much. Is this in the PHB? Cause I am surprised I could have missed it.( Imagine how much time you spend examining ALL your books. That is how much I spend on the PHB. It's in the special materials section of your DMG, and in the SRD (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialMaterials.htm#adamantine).
SALDAR 04-07-07, 05:26 PM	It's in the Special Materials section of the Magic Item chapter in the DMG, as are all special materials.
Toast_recon 04-07-07, 05:28 PM	hmmmm, I see. I don't have the DMG, but I am surprised I missed it in the SRD. Well thanks. I will probably not use it for my cleric who has a str of 7, but in future characters I might. EDIT: The reason I was asking was for the next campaign I was planning to be a monk, whose fists,at 16th level, are treated as adamantine.( Can you honestly say breaking through a stone wall just by hitting it with your fists for a few hours doesn't appeal to you?
Nom 04-07-07, 10:02 PM	A slight but important correction:A object with 2019 point of hardness effectively has 0 hardness with struck with an admantine weapon. An adamantine weapon will slice through it like butter. A object with 2120 point of hardness effectively has 2120 hardness with struck with an admantine weapon. Striking with an adamantine weapon is no better than striking with a steel weapon in this case."ignores hardness less than 20" means that adamantine has no effect on 20 or more, not more than 20. (Note: the second example was strictly correct, but didn't make the point it was supposed to make, so I edited it too)
Toast_recon 04-08-07, 12:16 PM	"ignores hardness less than 20" means that adamantine has no effect on 20 or more, not more than 20. That makes sense, cause otherwise adamantine would slice through adamantine like butter, which makes no sense. Seriously, no one finds chooping your way through 3 feet of stone with your fists appealing? I think it will be my goal level:16th level.<jumps up and punches the wall, then regrets it and rolls on the floor in agony for 10 minutes>:weep: I got a boo boo mama! Kiss it and make it bettuh!:weep: they shouldn't make walls so hard! when I was a boy one could punch through walls with ease!:rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
Fallenangel359 04-08-07, 03:52 PM	I don't know why, but I always was amused by how a gnome with a 1d4+3 scimitar who is a warblade can make a concentration check, and do 60 points of damage to a wall, and if its an adamantine weapon, bypass hardness, completely decimating that wall
Toast_recon 04-09-07, 11:28 AM	I don't know why, but I always was amused by how a gnome with a 1d4+3 scimitar who is a warblade can make a concentration check, and do 60 points of damage to a wall, and if its an adamantine weapon, bypass hardness, completely decimating that wall ...what if it was a monk gnome who could decimate a wall with his fists!By using flurry of blows and doing an average of 8 damage per attack with five attacks could do 40 damage! in two rounds(12 seconds) of super fast blows and bypassing hardness, she could decimate that wall in no-time. In two rounds she would have done more damage than the warblade without a concentration check with her fists. Just a thought.
RobbyPants 04-09-07, 11:58 AM	EDIT: The reason I was asking was for the next campaign I was planning to be a monk, whose fists,at 16th level, are treated as adamantine.( Can you honestly say breaking through a stone wall just by hitting it with your fists for a few hours doesn't appeal to you? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding how it works, but I don't think the monk's Ki strike (adamantine) ability actually treats your attacks like adamantine for purposes of damaging objects. It only treats them as adamantine (as well as lawful and magic, by that point) for purposes of overcoming damage reduction of monsters. This will be most useful against construcs, slaad, some demons, and the like, but not objects.
Toast_recon 04-09-07, 12:07 PM	at 16th level her unarmed attacks are treated as adamantine for the purposeof dealing damage to creatures with damage reduction and bypassing hardness. Page 41 in the PHB. Monk=awesome!
Fireclave 04-09-07, 12:09 PM	Toast_recon is right. Ki Strike (Su) At 4th level, a monk’s unarmed attacks are empowered with ki. Her unarmed attacks are treated as magic weapons for the purpose of dealing damage to creatures with damage reduction. Ki strike improves with the character’s monk level. At 10th level, her unarmed attacks are also treated as lawful weapons for the purpose of dealing damage to creatures with damage reduction. At 16th level, her unarmed attacks are treated as adamantine weapons for the purpose of dealing damage to creatures with damage reduction and bypassing hardness.
Toast_recon 04-09-07, 12:25 PM	booh-yah! become a monk and get through locks easy? Lock picking not a class skill? no problem, punch the lock 5 times in one round!wall in your way, give it a good headbutt!:banghead: Wow, I have never used that smilie like that before!:bravo: