Advice on a Crown. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Advice on a Crown. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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CantripN
06-27-06, 08:38 AM We just killed an Avatar of a Forgotten Illithid God (Dawn of the Overmind), and he dropped a Golden Crown. We tried picking it up, and had to pass a will save not to wear it. The guy who did, had it fused to his skull for -1 Con, +1 Int. Other than that, unknown. We removed it with a Remove Curse scroll (Our only one). The drained Con remained. It eats through any bag we put it in, so we must either wear it or leave it there. The Avatar reformed after some minutes. It might be it's his focus of sorts. I'm a Wizard/Priest, so +1 to INT is great: It'll give me 20 INT.
Wear it or not?
Leilond
06-27-06, 08:40 AM ROLE PLAY IT!
Does your character is the type of adventurer that would wear it? What would your character think?
Do not think on stats, think about your character concept!
CantripN
06-27-06, 08:43 AM You know, I would. I'd destroy it. But I'm just checking if anyone will tell me to wear it.
towerwrath
06-27-06, 08:48 AM It depends on your alingment. If good no because Illithids tend to be evil, if evil yes, and if neutral why not can't hurt.......much.
Leilond
06-27-06, 08:49 AM You know, I would. I'd destroy it. But I'm just checking if anyone will tell me to wear it.
Then destroy it and role play your character, it is always better
Pliskit
06-27-06, 08:52 AM It also depends how chaotic you are :D If you don't know any of the other side-effects you'd have to be PRETTY willing to gamble if you're going to wear an Illithid artifact...
The -1 to con was only within the FIRST 5 minutes right? There just might be more drainage where that came from ;)
Furthermore it could be broadcasting your every thought to the Illithid hive-mind for example, and the fun just doesn't end there.
Azezel
06-27-06, 09:35 AM Have you tried Mage Hand, Telekenisis, Unseen Servent, Tenser's Floating Disk, Summoned Constructs/Undead or any other sort of magical transport option.

Anything which is mindless should be able to carry the crown safely.
CantripN
06-27-06, 09:39 AM Have you tried Mage Hand, Telekenisis, Unseen Servent, Tenser's Floating Disk, Summoned Constructs/Undead or any other sort of magical transport option.

Anything which is mindless should be able to carry the crown safely.

Would you believe me if I said we don't have any of those? All we have is a Bag of Holding (Type II), and I'm afraid it'll eat through it. :(
DeadEye19
06-28-06, 05:43 PM I think that there is something wrong about it when players ask this stuff here.

Your character can only decide with her wits and friends, not some externals that surely one of them would come up with some bright idea (in this case, Azezel,despite his odd choice of a screen name).
bondious
06-28-06, 07:18 PM We just killed an Avatar of a Forgotten Illithid God (Dawn of the Overmind), and he dropped a Golden Crown. We tried picking it up, and had to pass a will save not to wear it. The guy who did, had it fused to his skull for -1 Con, +1 Int. Other than that, unknown. We removed it with a Remove Curse scroll (Our only one). The drained Con remained. It eats through any bag we put it in, so we must either wear it or leave it there. The Avatar reformed after some minutes. It might be it's his focus of sorts. I'm a Wizard/Priest, so +1 to INT is great: It'll give me 20 INT.
Wear it or not?

I have a question, and I might sound like a dunce, but what happens if you PASS your Will save? I don't know for sure, of course, but I'm thinking that if you pass your Will save then you would have some measure of dominance over the Crown, and probably be able to carry it. Hopefully that's the case.

As for the RP standpoint, as to whether or not to wear the Crown or not, we can't really tell you that. You have to do as others have suggested and think about your character and his/her tendancies and whatnot. You should also think of the facts. You know about the Int bonus and Con drain, you know that once you put it on it's a pain in the butt to take it off, and you know that it was worn by a Mind Flayer Avatar. You'll have to base your answer on these things.

For example: my lawful good Dwarven fighter would probably shun this thing, and not even want it anywhere NEAR him, but my friend's true neutral human wizard/archmage JUST MIGHT put this thing on, seeing as he's bent on being the most powerful mage he can be. It's all just a matter of perspective.

In any event, have fun with this. Who knows what will happen, you know? This thing could do whatever, including possibly turning you into an Illithid or something. Could be fun, no?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
CantripN 06-27-06, 08:38 AM	We just killed an Avatar of a Forgotten Illithid God (Dawn of the Overmind), and he dropped a Golden Crown. We tried picking it up, and had to pass a will save not to wear it. The guy who did, had it fused to his skull for -1 Con, +1 Int. Other than that, unknown. We removed it with a Remove Curse scroll (Our only one). The drained Con remained. It eats through any bag we put it in, so we must either wear it or leave it there. The Avatar reformed after some minutes. It might be it's his focus of sorts. I'm a Wizard/Priest, so +1 to INT is great: It'll give me 20 INT. Wear it or not?
Leilond 06-27-06, 08:40 AM	ROLE PLAY IT! Does your character is the type of adventurer that would wear it? What would your character think? Do not think on stats, think about your character concept!
CantripN 06-27-06, 08:43 AM	You know, I would. I'd destroy it. But I'm just checking if anyone will tell me to wear it.
towerwrath 06-27-06, 08:48 AM	It depends on your alingment. If good no because Illithids tend to be evil, if evil yes, and if neutral why not can't hurt.......much.
Leilond 06-27-06, 08:49 AM	You know, I would. I'd destroy it. But I'm just checking if anyone will tell me to wear it. Then destroy it and role play your character, it is always better
Pliskit 06-27-06, 08:52 AM	It also depends how chaotic you are :D If you don't know any of the other side-effects you'd have to be PRETTY willing to gamble if you're going to wear an Illithid artifact... The -1 to con was only within the FIRST 5 minutes right? There just might be more drainage where that came from ;) Furthermore it could be broadcasting your every thought to the Illithid hive-mind for example, and the fun just doesn't end there.
Azezel 06-27-06, 09:35 AM	Have you tried Mage Hand, Telekenisis, Unseen Servent, Tenser's Floating Disk, Summoned Constructs/Undead or any other sort of magical transport option. Anything which is mindless should be able to carry the crown safely.
CantripN 06-27-06, 09:39 AM	Have you tried Mage Hand, Telekenisis, Unseen Servent, Tenser's Floating Disk, Summoned Constructs/Undead or any other sort of magical transport option. Anything which is mindless should be able to carry the crown safely. Would you believe me if I said we don't have any of those? All we have is a Bag of Holding (Type II), and I'm afraid it'll eat through it. :(
DeadEye19 06-28-06, 05:43 PM	I think that there is something wrong about it when players ask this stuff here. Your character can only decide with her wits and friends, not some externals that surely one of them would come up with some bright idea (in this case, Azezel,despite his odd choice of a screen name).
bondious 06-28-06, 07:18 PM	We just killed an Avatar of a Forgotten Illithid God (Dawn of the Overmind), and he dropped a Golden Crown. We tried picking it up, and had to pass a will save not to wear it. The guy who did, had it fused to his skull for -1 Con, +1 Int. Other than that, unknown. We removed it with a Remove Curse scroll (Our only one). The drained Con remained. It eats through any bag we put it in, so we must either wear it or leave it there. The Avatar reformed after some minutes. It might be it's his focus of sorts. I'm a Wizard/Priest, so +1 to INT is great: It'll give me 20 INT. Wear it or not? I have a question, and I might sound like a dunce, but what happens if you PASS your Will save? I don't know for sure, of course, but I'm thinking that if you pass your Will save then you would have some measure of dominance over the Crown, and probably be able to carry it. Hopefully that's the case. As for the RP standpoint, as to whether or not to wear the Crown or not, we can't really tell you that. You have to do as others have suggested and think about your character and his/her tendancies and whatnot. You should also think of the facts. You know about the Int bonus and Con drain, you know that once you put it on it's a pain in the butt to take it off, and you know that it was worn by a Mind Flayer Avatar. You'll have to base your answer on these things. For example: my lawful good Dwarven fighter would probably shun this thing, and not even want it anywhere NEAR him, but my friend's true neutral human wizard/archmage JUST MIGHT put this thing on, seeing as he's bent on being the most powerful mage he can be. It's all just a matter of perspective. In any event, have fun with this. Who knows what will happen, you know? This thing could do whatever, including possibly turning you into an Illithid or something. Could be fun, no?