Alchemical Questions [Archive] - Wizards Community

Alchemical Questions [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
DarkJediReborn
03-29-05, 09:10 PM I have two questions regarding alchemical items.

1) Is there a certain formula for determining the cost of alchemical items? Something comparing the effects to a spell and then multiplying it to get gold cost?

2) Can a character with ranks in Use Magic Device "fake it" enough to create alchemical items?

If anyone has input on these, please let me know.
DarkJediReborn
03-30-05, 09:21 AM :bump:
tarkin
03-30-05, 10:09 AM 1) I have not seen a rule. Remember that Alchemical stuff is not "magical" and may work in an anti-magic field. And that it is generally all weak stuff - 1st level or lower effects.

2) No. Use Magic Device only allows you to activate magic items, it does not allow you to satisfy any other requirements, such as making them, or making alchemical items.
Beamup
03-30-05, 11:05 AM 1. No rule. If you look at the ones in CV, it's pretty clear that they're quite ad hoc. They're also far too costly to be useful, but that's a side issue.

2. As Tarkin said, no. UMD won't work by the letter of the rules. But there is really no strong reason not to simply abolish the "only casters can use Craft(Alchemy)" rule.
Gloriam Etriae
03-30-05, 11:13 AM 1. Personally, I'd say use the PHB alchemical items as a guide for pricing. I'm having to do that myself for useful powders, poultices and effusions that I'm creating (I'll post some here when I finish).

2. I agree with tarkin; UMD shouldn't compensate for being a spell-caster in the sense of the Craft (Alchemy) skill.
DarkJediReborn
03-30-05, 05:05 PM Thank you all.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DarkJediReborn 03-29-05, 09:10 PM	I have two questions regarding alchemical items. 1) Is there a certain formula for determining the cost of alchemical items? Something comparing the effects to a spell and then multiplying it to get gold cost? 2) Can a character with ranks in Use Magic Device "fake it" enough to create alchemical items? If anyone has input on these, please let me know.
DarkJediReborn 03-30-05, 09:21 AM	:bump:
tarkin 03-30-05, 10:09 AM	1) I have not seen a rule. Remember that Alchemical stuff is not "magical" and may work in an anti-magic field. And that it is generally all weak stuff - 1st level or lower effects. 2) No. Use Magic Device only allows you to activate magic items, it does not allow you to satisfy any other requirements, such as making them, or making alchemical items.
Beamup 03-30-05, 11:05 AM	1. No rule. If you look at the ones in CV, it's pretty clear that they're quite ad hoc. They're also far too costly to be useful, but that's a side issue. 2. As Tarkin said, no. UMD won't work by the letter of the rules. But there is really no strong reason not to simply abolish the "only casters can use Craft(Alchemy)" rule.
Gloriam Etriae 03-30-05, 11:13 AM	1. Personally, I'd say use the PHB alchemical items as a guide for pricing. I'm having to do that myself for useful powders, poultices and effusions that I'm creating (I'll post some here when I finish). 2. I agree with tarkin; UMD shouldn't compensate for being a spell-caster in the sense of the Craft (Alchemy) skill.
DarkJediReborn 03-30-05, 05:05 PM	Thank you all.