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kuhTHOOloo 03-26-05, 01:37 PM	Ok, the idea just crossed my mind for a true neutral character of higher levels. He wields a double bladed sword. I was wondering if it was possible for one blade to be holy and axiomatic, and the other end unholy and anarchic?
DM Denubis 03-26-05, 01:41 PM	Sure, why not? But he better stay exactly where he is, as far as alignment is concerned. Call it the Equalizer. ^^
Nuntius128 03-26-05, 01:46 PM	Hmm... well, as a Double Weapon, that's quite a doozy. I agree that it can be done, and would work really well. Very powerful weapon. But, yeah, you'd better stay on target with your alignment, and never shift, or else.
Vahenir 03-26-05, 07:10 PM	Agreed. There is no Core or common sense rule to denote that you couldn't do this. Go with it.
scwolf 03-26-05, 11:58 PM	Just remember, if the weapon ever achieves the status of intelligent magic item, it's gonna have issues.
PhaedrusXY 03-27-05, 12:16 AM	Just remember, if the weapon ever achieves the status of intelligent magic item, it's gonna have issues. :heehee A weapon with Multiple Personality Disorder? :P
Patrick Draken-Korin 03-27-05, 12:20 AM	first: yes that would work (and the wielder had better stay neutral) second: go ahead and make it intelligent. two personalities (one for each head), and they argue constanly. but they have no trouble working to gether to maintain the health of a true neutal wielder as it's the special purpose is to make it's wielder the strongest warrior in the world. fun.
Begle1 03-27-05, 01:42 AM	Nothing the matter with that at all... Always wanted to have a Darkwood quarterstaff for druids... One side would be Unholy, Anarchic, Axiomatic and Holy while the other would have Freezing, Flaming, Shocking and Thundering. +2 for each end, of course... Never had a TN quarterstaff-wielder of high enough level to give it to, though... What would the cost on that baby be? It's pretty close to an Epic-level weaon ain't it?
the Horc 03-27-05, 03:03 AM	I like this weapon. It's cool. Intelligent Item, please make it. But they should be different heads.
simen_88 03-27-05, 05:30 PM	Ok, the idea just crossed my mind for a true neutral character of higher levels. He wields a double bladed sword. I was wondering if it was possible for one blade to be holy and axiomatic, and the other end unholy and anarchic? Good luck finding a LG and a CE wizard willing to cooperate with each other. Other than that, really cool idea.
kuhTHOOloo 03-27-05, 09:59 PM	Good luck finding a LG and a CE wizard willing to cooperate with each other. Other than that, really cool idea. a true neutral wizard wouldn't be able to? and thanks for all the input!
scwolf 03-28-05, 01:20 AM	a true neutral wizard wouldn't be able to? The prerequesite spells required for those particular weapon qualities can not be found on the Wizard's spell list. And there's no easy way of getting spells that are on four seperate Cleric Domain lists into a wizard's spellbook (though I'm sure someone can come up with a hard way). Also, those weapon qualities also specifically require the creator to be the alignment being imparted to the weapon. I think perhaps that an Eberron Artificer might be able to solo this task, but that's about the only character type out there who could.
PhaedrusXY 03-28-05, 01:31 AM	Good luck finding a LG and a CE wizard willing to cooperate with each other. Other than that, really cool idea.The ends are enchanted as if they were separate magic items. So you could get one end enchanted by one person, then take the item to someone else to do the other end. Just make sure the second one doesn't identify the end he's not working on. :P
scwolf 03-28-05, 02:08 AM	The ends are enchanted as if they were separate magic items. So you could get one end enchanted by one person, then take the item to someone else to do the other end. Just make sure the second one doesn't identify the end he's not working on. :P It's too bad there's no rules for constructing a double weapon out of two existing single weapons. That way, you could send one sword off to the one Cleric to be enchanted, the other sword off to the other Cleric for the same reason, and then once you get them back make the final craft check to attach the swords to the haft that connects them into one double bladed sword. Anway, it's not unheard of to get Good and Evil to cooperate. After all, a major plot point of the Dragonlance: Legends revolved around a magic artifact that no one ever thought would be able to be used because one of the requirements was that a Cleric of the Most Good of the Good gods in the Krynish pantheon had to be working together with an Evil Wizard of the Black Robes in order to use it.
Dartanel 03-28-05, 02:15 AM	A high level warlock has the abilty to fake item creation requirements.
scwolf 03-28-05, 02:46 AM	A high level warlock has the abilty to fake item creation requirements. So, starting with a Lawful Evil warlock, we do one blade of the double bladed sword that's Axiomatic, and Unholy. The Warlock then shifts alignment to Chaotic Good, and makes the other blade Anarchic and Holy. Not bad, but the original poster's specification wanted the Axiomatic and Holy on one blade and the Anarchic and Unholy on the other. We could have a CE Warlock make an Anarchic Unholy blade on one end, but since you can't have a LG warlock (Must be Chaotic or Evil), and warlocks can only emulate prerequisite spells for item creation and not prerequisite alignments, a Warlock can't solo create the exact weapon the original poster requested. Nitpicky perhaps, but the devil is in the details.
Kinghappo 03-29-05, 06:22 AM	This +2 double bladed sword (one head +2 Holy/Axiomatic, one head +2 Unholy/Anarchic) was created origionaly as a tool of vengence. Its crafter (origionaly a 15th level cleric) was forced to watch his wife and children slain by an evil lord as a lesson for interfearing with his plans. Day and night the man worked on this weapon with the full intent of slaying this wicked creature. With the good blade completed he felt that he had reached the limit of his abilities and went out to exact revenge upon the demon... It took him years to finally track the murderer of his family down but when he did he found out it was too late... a champion of Heironeous had faced him in battle and forced the Evil lord to fully atone for his sins.. With blade in hand he tried to strike down the now good cleric, the sword refused to swing, unable to strike down a holy person. Robbed of his vengence the cleric slowly began to rot, mentaly and spirtualy until he himself had slipped from goodness and into the debts of evil, loseing his abilitys as a holy man he instead embraced evil, knowing that it would allow him to exact his revenge. With his vengence fueling his passion he fought and climed his way through the evil ranks, not only instealing fear in creatures that ran from him as a holy man in the past but now cowered before his vile ways. When he felt as powerful as his former self he now began to work on the other half of the sword, supressing the good nature of it through magic until the other blade could be completed. He now returned once again on his quest of vengence, tracking the now holy warrior down as he did so long ago. Upon facing the the target of his revenge he slaughtered the mans family in front of his eyes, the same method that was used against him. When he struck down the man he realized that he had become the person that he hated so.... and with this realization, struck himself down with the same weapon. The souls of these two have been imprinted into the sword, each on the blade that struck them down. Though the blades still continue to curse each other and argue at every possible chance, they both understand that such a travesty must never be repeated and will do everything in their power to assist their wielder (who must be true neutral at all times) accomplish this task. The moment that Equal Vengence's wielder slides into either a good or evil allignment willingly the opposeing blade will slay the wielder, either using their own hands or possessing anyone near by to grab the blade and do it themselves. Item attributes: INT 16, WIS 16, CHA 10; Speech and telepathy with wielder; Wielder able to detect allignment at will. Ego 37, 60' darkvision and hearing. Purpose: To slay any that bear grudge against the wielder and to slay any that hold vengence as their purpose in life. Must be wielded by a true neutral character. CL 30th (can be 15/15 in two classes of opposite allignments) Caster(s) must be CE and LG and been the subject of an Atonement spell. Craft magic arms and armor, Bless, Curse, Detect allignment, Wish. 260,000g 10,400xp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ well that is my shot at it, if you think you can do better go right ahead but I tried lol