"New" Staff Rules [Archive] - Wizards Community

"New" Staff Rules [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Loopy
02-10-06, 02:11 PM Now Staffs use the wielder's ability score and feats for the saving throws on staves and they use their own caster level for spell effects. So... I was thinking, as a DM, why wouldn't my BBEG have a sweatshop with a bunch of lower-level casters sitting there making staffs for her?
Roxlimn
02-10-06, 02:18 PM No reason. Just remember to bump up the CR rating appropriately to account for the greater amount of equipment.
Loopy
02-10-06, 02:23 PM What about a Sorcerer BBEG with the Leadership feat?
Roxlimn
02-10-06, 02:29 PM What's the difference?
Loopy
02-10-06, 02:46 PM A Sorcerer has a high Charisma and the feat precludes the need to dole out XP to the players.
Roxlimn
02-10-06, 03:06 PM I don't see the distinction. As long as you adjust the CR appropriately for added stuffs, it won't make a difference.
Loopy
02-10-06, 03:09 PM ....
tarkin
02-10-06, 03:10 PM NPC magic item manufacturing generally makes little sense.

It still costs them gold to make, so basically you are only buying them at 1/2 price.

The times requirement for them generally means they have no time to spend with their leader

And the pre-req requirements for them tend to mean they can make few items, mostly on the weak side.

However, an idea that I like better is the following:

Instead of you taking a magic item creation feat, take leadership feat and get a Wizard cohort that takes ALL the metamagic feats.

Then you pay the XP and spend the time making them. You use them not to make the items, but to supply the feats. Now, effectively your NPC's are still with you all the time, you get powerfull magic items you need, but don't have to take all those feats.
Loopy
02-10-06, 03:17 PM Then you pay the XP and spend the time making them. You use them not to make the items, but to supply the feats. Now, effectively your NPC's are still with you all the time, you get powerfull magic items you need, but don't have to take all those feats.

That's hot.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Loopy 02-10-06, 02:11 PM	Now Staffs use the wielder's ability score and feats for the saving throws on staves and they use their own caster level for spell effects. So... I was thinking, as a DM, why wouldn't my BBEG have a sweatshop with a bunch of lower-level casters sitting there making staffs for her?
Roxlimn 02-10-06, 02:18 PM	No reason. Just remember to bump up the CR rating appropriately to account for the greater amount of equipment.
Loopy 02-10-06, 02:23 PM	What about a Sorcerer BBEG with the Leadership feat?
Roxlimn 02-10-06, 02:29 PM	What's the difference?
Loopy 02-10-06, 02:46 PM	A Sorcerer has a high Charisma and the feat precludes the need to dole out XP to the players.
Roxlimn 02-10-06, 03:06 PM	I don't see the distinction. As long as you adjust the CR appropriately for added stuffs, it won't make a difference.
Loopy 02-10-06, 03:09 PM	....
tarkin 02-10-06, 03:10 PM	NPC magic item manufacturing generally makes little sense. It still costs them gold to make, so basically you are only buying them at 1/2 price. The times requirement for them generally means they have no time to spend with their leader And the pre-req requirements for them tend to mean they can make few items, mostly on the weak side. However, an idea that I like better is the following: Instead of you taking a magic item creation feat, take leadership feat and get a Wizard cohort that takes ALL the metamagic feats. Then you pay the XP and spend the time making them. You use them not to make the items, but to supply the feats. Now, effectively your NPC's are still with you all the time, you get powerfull magic items you need, but don't have to take all those feats.
Loopy 02-10-06, 03:17 PM	Then you pay the XP and spend the time making them. You use them not to make the items, but to supply the feats. Now, effectively your NPC's are still with you all the time, you get powerfull magic items you need, but don't have to take all those feats. That's hot.