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devil_3213 09-17-07, 08:07 PM	I'm sure someone's asked this question already but I really need to know. If you have a two weapon fighter and both of his weapons have the speed enchantment, does that mean he gets an extra two attacks each round? Thanks!~
jaelis 09-17-07, 08:28 PM	Many people say no. The ability says that it doesn't stack with similar effects, including the haste spell. That would indicate that it doesn't stack with any other effects that grant an extra attack, including another speed weapon. But many people say yes. They say that restriction refers only to getting another attack with the same weapon, not with a different one. They point to the quarterstaff of alacrity (an epic item that explicitly says it grants an extra attack with both hands) as support. I think the rules say no, but I don't have any problem with allowing it.
EjoThims 09-17-07, 09:13 PM	The weapon property specifically states that it gives an extra attack with that weapon, not just an extra attack overall. It should give two extra attacks if wielding two speed weapons. However, all CustServ and other responses are pretty consistent in that it is not actually allowed, despite there having been no errata of the enchantment.
Knightblde 09-18-07, 07:57 AM	General rule of D&D Speed and haste like abilities do not stack. As such Speed and Speed do not stack. If you had BAB +6 and ITWF = 4 Attacks Add Speed weapon = 5 Attacks If you added haste, you would still have 5 Attacks because it does not stack with speed If you added speed, you would still have 5 Attacks because it also does not stack with speed
mvincent 09-18-07, 03:37 PM	Obligatory notes regarding multiple speed weapons: The 3.0 speed description (http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd/srdmagicitemsweapons.rtf) said: "It is not cumulative with haste." This caused some players to believe that it would still be cumulative with itself, but the 3.0 FAQ addressed this by stating: "You can use two weapons of speed at a time all right, but you still only get one extra attack, from one weapon or the other, not both. If you are under the effects of a haste spell, you can use the extra attack action from one weapon of speed, or the extra partial action from the haste spell, but not both." To reflect this, the 3.5 speed description (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicWeapons.htm#speed) was changed to include: "This benefit is not cumulative with similar effects, such as a haste spell." The speed ability from one weapon is definitely a "similar effect" to the speed ability from another. So, the rules have actually been changed between editions to specifically address this issue. Regardless, if you wish to allow them to stack in your own games, then by all means, house-rule it in. Balance is unlikely to be harmed, given their inflated price. But you at least have the "official" answer.
devil_3213 09-19-07, 03:54 PM	Hey thanks a lot guys. I was asking because I have a monk who is taking levels of kensai and has TWF. My DM says its cool since I have to sacrifice so much gold and XP to get it that it'll apply to both fists. Thanks!