AOOs... enlighten me please [Archive] - Wizards Community

AOOs... enlighten me please [Archive] - Wizards Community

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kSquared
09-18-04, 06:22 PM You are in combat with a creature that can take an infinite number of attacks of opportunity each round. You are currently in one of the creature's threatened squares. Is this creature entitled to an AOO against you if you move into another one of the creature's threatened squares?
Pyrosis Silvercaster
09-18-04, 06:40 PM According to 3.0 PHB page 122 heading Provoking an Attack of Opportunity ...if your entire move for the round is 5 feet (a 5-foot step), enemies do not get attacks of opportunity for your moving.
So I would take that to mean if all you do is move then the answer would be no.

It would not make sense that a creature you are actively facing off against could get in a cheap shot (which basicly is what an AoO is) just for you side-stepping.
Egres
09-18-04, 06:46 PM You are in combat with a creature that can take an infinite number of attacks of opportunity each round. You are currently in one of the creature's threatened squares. Is this creature entitled to an AOO against you if you move into another one of the creature's threatened squares?
From the SRD:

Combat Reflexes and Additional Attacks of Opportunity: If you have the Combat Reflexes feat you can add your Dexterity modifier to the number of attacks of opportunity you can make in a round. This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity, but if the same opponent provokes two attacks of opportunity from you, you could make two separate attacks of opportunity (since each one represents a different opportunity). Moving out of more than one square threatened by the same opponent in the same round doesn’t count as more than one opportunity for that opponent
kSquared
09-18-04, 08:14 PM Egres & Pyrosis,

Thanks a bunch!
Capt. Pixel
09-19-04, 12:08 AM While we're on the subject of AoPs, I recently ran into a contradiction in the rules concerning Attacks of Opprotunity when rising from a Prone position.

PHB 3.0 second release states that rising form Prone does NOT provoke an Attack of Opportunity.

However, a recent article written by Skip Williams and presented on this site indicates that situation DOES provoke an AoP.

Which is the actual rule?

In my experience, once a character is prone, they have little choice but to get whacked if the second rule is correct. (For this reason, and the PHB written rule, we DON'T allow AoPs against someone rising from Prone)

Any rules lawyers out there want to take a crack at this one? :)
FitzNighteyes
09-19-04, 01:00 AM The correct rule in 3e is that standing from prone does not provoke an AoO.

The correct rule in 3r (which Skip was writing his article about) is that standing from prone does provoke an AoO.

The rule was changed in the revision.
Someone
09-19-04, 02:40 AM Though I'd say that going from prone to kneeling (a move action) doesn't draw AoOs, neither does going from prone to standing (another move action). So, with the equivalent of a full-round action, you can get up from prone without drawing AoOs.
Inigo Carmine
09-19-04, 03:51 AM You are in combat with a creature that can take an infinite number of attacks of opportunity each round. You are currently in one of the creature's threatened squares. Is this creature entitled to an AOO against you if you move into another one of the creature's threatened squares?

Toactually answer the original question...

Yes. Though as Egres points out, he can only make one AoO for this reason once per round.

There are a few specific maneuvers you can use to avoid this AoO, but they will say so explicitly. Pyrosis mentions something similar to the "withdraw" action, where you make a fullround action and all you do is move (up to 2x your speed). While you won't draw an AoO from the original square you move out of, all other aquares you move out of will potentially draw an AoO from anyone who threatens you.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
kSquared 09-18-04, 06:22 PM	You are in combat with a creature that can take an infinite number of attacks of opportunity each round. You are currently in one of the creature's threatened squares. Is this creature entitled to an AOO against you if you move into another one of the creature's threatened squares?
Pyrosis Silvercaster 09-18-04, 06:40 PM	According to 3.0 PHB page 122 heading Provoking an Attack of Opportunity ...if your entire move for the round is 5 feet (a 5-foot step), enemies do not get attacks of opportunity for your moving. So I would take that to mean if all you do is move then the answer would be no. It would not make sense that a creature you are actively facing off against could get in a cheap shot (which basicly is what an AoO is) just for you side-stepping.
Egres 09-18-04, 06:46 PM	You are in combat with a creature that can take an infinite number of attacks of opportunity each round. You are currently in one of the creature's threatened squares. Is this creature entitled to an AOO against you if you move into another one of the creature's threatened squares? From the SRD: Combat Reflexes and Additional Attacks of Opportunity: If you have the Combat Reflexes feat you can add your Dexterity modifier to the number of attacks of opportunity you can make in a round. This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity, but if the same opponent provokes two attacks of opportunity from you, you could make two separate attacks of opportunity (since each one represents a different opportunity). Moving out of more than one square threatened by the same opponent in the same round doesn’t count as more than one opportunity for that opponent
kSquared 09-18-04, 08:14 PM	Egres & Pyrosis, Thanks a bunch!
Capt. Pixel 09-19-04, 12:08 AM	While we're on the subject of AoPs, I recently ran into a contradiction in the rules concerning Attacks of Opprotunity when rising from a Prone position. PHB 3.0 second release states that rising form Prone does NOT provoke an Attack of Opportunity. However, a recent article written by Skip Williams and presented on this site indicates that situation DOES provoke an AoP. Which is the actual rule? In my experience, once a character is prone, they have little choice but to get whacked if the second rule is correct. (For this reason, and the PHB written rule, we DON'T allow AoPs against someone rising from Prone) Any rules lawyers out there want to take a crack at this one? :)
FitzNighteyes 09-19-04, 01:00 AM	The correct rule in 3e is that standing from prone does not provoke an AoO. The correct rule in 3r (which Skip was writing his article about) is that standing from prone does provoke an AoO. The rule was changed in the revision.
Someone 09-19-04, 02:40 AM	Though I'd say that going from prone to kneeling (a move action) doesn't draw AoOs, neither does going from prone to standing (another move action). So, with the equivalent of a full-round action, you can get up from prone without drawing AoOs.
Inigo Carmine 09-19-04, 03:51 AM	You are in combat with a creature that can take an infinite number of attacks of opportunity each round. You are currently in one of the creature's threatened squares. Is this creature entitled to an AOO against you if you move into another one of the creature's threatened squares? Toactually answer the original question... Yes. Though as Egres points out, he can only make one AoO for this reason once per round. There are a few specific maneuvers you can use to avoid this AoO, but they will say so explicitly. Pyrosis mentions something similar to the "withdraw" action, where you make a fullround action and all you do is move (up to 2x your speed). While you won't draw an AoO from the original square you move out of, all other aquares you move out of will potentially draw an AoO from anyone who threatens you.