Are multiple effect cost broken?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Are multiple effect cost broken?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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worldsforgiven
10-16-06, 05:35 AM I am trying to craft a magic item and I am reading the rules which state if I am trying to apply multiple similar abilities on an item that takes up a body slot it multiplies the highest items total by 1.5 and if it does not take a body slot it multiplies the next lowest ability by .75 then the next by .5. WHY would I take an item that takes up a body slot then when I could just skip all that and make my ion stone be the main source of my power if thats the case. It would save me 10 times as much to do so this way.

If the decision was mine I would have switch it around since most items for body slots tell you what bonuses fit and if the bonuses dont make sense you multiply them anyway.
Nom
10-16-06, 07:22 AM The "multiple similar abilities" text is badly named. It refers to things like staves, which grant either-or abilities rather than cumulative abilities.

For example, a ring that triggered either cure light wounds or bless 3x/day would be priced at (1*1 + 1*1*0.75) * 1800 * 3/5 = 1.75 * 1080 = 1890 gp. A ring that triggered cure light wounds 3x/day and bless 3x/day would be priced at either 2 * 1080 or 1080 + 1080 * 1.5 = 2.5 * 1080 gp, depending on whether the GM judged it appropriate to apply the "multiple different abilities" penalty.
tarkin
10-16-06, 08:42 AM Nom is correct.

The discount for multiple similar effects only should apply to something that shares a single set of charges.

Something like the cube of Force.
risner
10-16-06, 09:38 AM MDA (Multiple Different Abilities)
All items that take of a body slot and all slotless (Ioun Stone) type items.

MSA (Multiple Similar Abilities)
All items that don't take up a body slot **AND** have chargest with multiple effects (the similar part) that can be used. This is for Staff like items.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
worldsforgiven 10-16-06, 05:35 AM	I am trying to craft a magic item and I am reading the rules which state if I am trying to apply multiple similar abilities on an item that takes up a body slot it multiplies the highest items total by 1.5 and if it does not take a body slot it multiplies the next lowest ability by .75 then the next by .5. WHY would I take an item that takes up a body slot then when I could just skip all that and make my ion stone be the main source of my power if thats the case. It would save me 10 times as much to do so this way. If the decision was mine I would have switch it around since most items for body slots tell you what bonuses fit and if the bonuses dont make sense you multiply them anyway.
Nom 10-16-06, 07:22 AM	The "multiple similar abilities" text is badly named. It refers to things like staves, which grant either-or abilities rather than cumulative abilities. For example, a ring that triggered either cure light wounds or bless 3x/day would be priced at (11 + 110.75) 1800 * 3/5 = 1.75 * 1080 = 1890 gp. A ring that triggered cure light wounds 3x/day and bless 3x/day would be priced at either 2 * 1080 or 1080 + 1080 * 1.5 = 2.5 * 1080 gp, depending on whether the GM judged it appropriate to apply the "multiple different abilities" penalty.
tarkin 10-16-06, 08:42 AM	Nom is correct. The discount for multiple similar effects only should apply to something that shares a single set of charges. Something like the cube of Force.
risner 10-16-06, 09:38 AM	MDA (Multiple Different Abilities) All items that take of a body slot and all slotless (Ioun Stone) type items. MSA (Multiple Similar Abilities) All items that don't take up a body slot AND have chargest with multiple effects (the similar part) that can be used. This is for Staff like items.