Are weapon speical abilities linked to the weapon size compared to weilder size? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Are weapon speical abilities linked to the weapon size compared to weilder size? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Duration_10_Rounds
08-30-05, 12:39 PM This just came to me while talking about the halfling skip rock in another thread....

Do weapons aditional features only funciton for the weilder when the weapon maintains it origonal Size to Weilder ratio?

For example the Skiprock is a tiny weapon(1d3) that bonces form foe to foe... a nice little novelty weapon.... until you scale it up to medium or large size and use it as a 1d6/1d8 stone discus of death it becomes a verry favoriable throwing weapon expecialy to rogues during the flatfooted combat round.

What about Tridents? could you you use a tiny trident (the size of a fork) to brace against a charge?

Harpoons... could you throw tiny harpoons like darts at a foe and still teather his movement and cripple him to half speed?

Sorry if over looked a rule but is there somthing that limits exaclty how small or big a weapon can be and still function as it should?
Sluagh
08-30-05, 01:04 PM Sorry if over looked a rule but is there somthing that limits exaclty how small or big a weapon can be and still function as it should?

Common sense?

On a more serious note, I tend to go with the idea that if a specialty weapon, like those listed above come in the size categories they're listed with in their entries and don't function properly outside those size ranges. Especially in the case where weapons are comparable to another weapon based on size ie harpoon when you scale it down is a dart...
tarkin
08-30-05, 02:28 PM In 3.0, you would have a valid arguement, claiming that a thrown weapon can be upsized ONE size category with no penalty. even then, you are not allowed to use a weapon upgraded by two sizes, unless you have some kind of wierd racial ability

In 3.5, when you use a weapon one size larger, you get a -2 penalty.

A Halfling sized skiprock does 1d3. If they want to use a Human sized skiprock, it does 1d4, but the halfling takes a -2 penalty to hit with it.

For melee weapons, it also upgrades the number of hands you need (light ->one ->Two handed), but this does not apply to thrown only things like a Net or a skiprock.
ShinAkuma2
08-30-05, 04:44 PM I think, as far as setting against a charge or entangling with a harpoon/net goes, it depends more on the defender than the attacker.

A fey with a net can entangle another fey, or a halfling...It's unreasonable to think they could entangle a giant with that same net, though.

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Duration_10_Rounds 08-30-05, 12:39 PM	This just came to me while talking about the halfling skip rock in another thread.... Do weapons aditional features only funciton for the weilder when the weapon maintains it origonal Size to Weilder ratio? For example the Skiprock is a tiny weapon(1d3) that bonces form foe to foe... a nice little novelty weapon.... until you scale it up to medium or large size and use it as a 1d6/1d8 stone discus of death it becomes a verry favoriable throwing weapon expecialy to rogues during the flatfooted combat round. What about Tridents? could you you use a tiny trident (the size of a fork) to brace against a charge? Harpoons... could you throw tiny harpoons like darts at a foe and still teather his movement and cripple him to half speed? Sorry if over looked a rule but is there somthing that limits exaclty how small or big a weapon can be and still function as it should?
Sluagh 08-30-05, 01:04 PM	Sorry if over looked a rule but is there somthing that limits exaclty how small or big a weapon can be and still function as it should? Common sense? On a more serious note, I tend to go with the idea that if a specialty weapon, like those listed above come in the size categories they're listed with in their entries and don't function properly outside those size ranges. Especially in the case where weapons are comparable to another weapon based on size ie harpoon when you scale it down is a dart...
tarkin 08-30-05, 02:28 PM	In 3.0, you would have a valid arguement, claiming that a thrown weapon can be upsized ONE size category with no penalty. even then, you are not allowed to use a weapon upgraded by two sizes, unless you have some kind of wierd racial ability In 3.5, when you use a weapon one size larger, you get a -2 penalty. A Halfling sized skiprock does 1d3. If they want to use a Human sized skiprock, it does 1d4, but the halfling takes a -2 penalty to hit with it. For melee weapons, it also upgrades the number of hands you need (light ->one ->Two handed), but this does not apply to thrown only things like a Net or a skiprock.
ShinAkuma2 08-30-05, 04:44 PM	I think, as far as setting against a charge or entangling with a harpoon/net goes, it depends more on the defender than the attacker. A fey with a net can entangle another fey, or a halfling...It's unreasonable to think they could entangle a giant with that same net, though.