Armor and Attack bonus ? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Armor and Attack bonus ? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Lokenarin
11-07-07, 01:33 PM for some reason i am having trouble finding the Stacking armor bonus's in the rules. Where can I find them?
1. What AC bonus's stack?
2. How does Magic Armor Bonus effect touch spells and the stacking of other armor bonus's, say from spells?
example: chain shirt +2 and protection from evil spell? What tpe of modifier is the +2?

Same question applies for attack bonus.
Example: take a magic sword +2 and prayer and bulls Str spell.

thanks
Movanic
11-07-07, 02:16 PM Bonuses with different names stack.
Bonuses without names stack - having no name, is not having the "no name" name ;)
Bonuses from the same source do not stack (ex: 2 Bull Strength spells.)
Bonuses with the same name do not stack.
The exception to the previous line is for dodge bonuses.

Ex: +2 sword of insight(+1) wielded by raging 2nd level 14 Str Barbarian with Bull Strength.
Att bonus: +2 (BAB), +2 (enhancement, sword), +1 (insight, sword), +6 (Str*) = +11
*Strength: 14 + 4 (unnamed: Rage) + 4 (enhancement: Bull Strength) = 22 (hence a +6 modifier)

Ex: +2 chanmail, protection from Evil, 13 Dex, Dodge feat, ring of protection +1, and bracers of armour +3
AC (regular attacks): 10 +7 (armour bonus, chainmail +2: 5+2), +1 (dodge: Dex), +1 (dodge: Dodge feat), +1 (deflection: ring of protection) = 20
- Since the +7 and +3 armour bonuses have the same name, we take only the better one. However, for the dodge bonuses, they stack: they are the exception.

AC (evil incorporeal foe): 10 + 2 (dodge: Dex and Dodge feat), +2 (deflection: protection from Evil), +3 (armour bonus, bracers - [Force] effect) = 17
- Since the +1 of the ring and +2 from the spell have the same name(deflection), we take only the better one.
- The armours armour bonus does not apply since this is an incorporeal attack.

AC (evil wizard ray spell): 10 + 2 (dodge: Dex and Dodge feat), +2 (deflection: protection from Evil) = 14
- Neither of the armour bonuses apply since this is a ranged touch attack.

Note - Protection from Evil grants a deflection bonus, as stated in the spell description.

Hope this helps (and that I made no mistakes...) :D
risner
11-07-07, 03:53 PM 1. What AC bonus's stack?
2. How does Magic Armor Bonus effect touch spells and the stacking of other armor bonus's, say from spells?
3. chain shirt +2 and protection from evil spell? What tpe of modifier is the +2?
4. magic sword +2 and prayer and bulls Str spell.

1) Non stack except dodge bonuses that don't say they don't stack.

2) Magic Armour doesn't help touch spells.

3) Read the spell (protection from evil)

4) Read the spell Bull Strength.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Lokenarin 11-07-07, 01:33 PM	for some reason i am having trouble finding the Stacking armor bonus's in the rules. Where can I find them? 1. What AC bonus's stack? 2. How does Magic Armor Bonus effect touch spells and the stacking of other armor bonus's, say from spells? example: chain shirt +2 and protection from evil spell? What tpe of modifier is the +2? Same question applies for attack bonus. Example: take a magic sword +2 and prayer and bulls Str spell. thanks
Movanic 11-07-07, 02:16 PM	Bonuses with different names stack. Bonuses without names stack - having no name, is not having the "no name" name ;) Bonuses from the same source do not stack (ex: 2 Bull Strength spells.) Bonuses with the same name do not stack. The exception to the previous line is for dodge bonuses. Ex: +2 sword of insight(+1) wielded by raging 2nd level 14 Str Barbarian with Bull Strength. Att bonus: +2 (BAB), +2 (enhancement, sword), +1 (insight, sword), +6 (Str) = +11 Strength: 14 + 4 (unnamed: Rage) + 4 (enhancement: Bull Strength) = 22 (hence a +6 modifier) Ex: +2 chanmail, protection from Evil, 13 Dex, Dodge feat, ring of protection +1, and bracers of armour +3 AC (regular attacks): 10 +7 (armour bonus, chainmail +2: 5+2), +1 (dodge: Dex), +1 (dodge: Dodge feat), +1 (deflection: ring of protection) = 20 - Since the +7 and +3 armour bonuses have the same name, we take only the better one. However, for the dodge bonuses, they stack: they are the exception. AC (evil incorporeal foe): 10 + 2 (dodge: Dex and Dodge feat), +2 (deflection: protection from Evil), +3 (armour bonus, bracers - [Force] effect) = 17 - Since the +1 of the ring and +2 from the spell have the same name(deflection), we take only the better one. - The armours armour bonus does not apply since this is an incorporeal attack. AC (evil wizard ray spell): 10 + 2 (dodge: Dex and Dodge feat), +2 (deflection: protection from Evil) = 14 - Neither of the armour bonuses apply since this is a ranged touch attack. Note - Protection from Evil grants a deflection bonus, as stated in the spell description. Hope this helps (and that I made no mistakes...) :D
risner 11-07-07, 03:53 PM	1. What AC bonus's stack? 2. How does Magic Armor Bonus effect touch spells and the stacking of other armor bonus's, say from spells? 3. chain shirt +2 and protection from evil spell? What tpe of modifier is the +2? 4. magic sword +2 and prayer and bulls Str spell. 1) Non stack except dodge bonuses that don't say they don't stack. 2) Magic Armour doesn't help touch spells. 3) Read the spell (protection from evil) 4) Read the spell Bull Strength.