Arrows! Arrows! Arrows! [Archive] - Wizards Community

Arrows! Arrows! Arrows! [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Bringer of autumn
08-07-06, 11:46 AM Hello fellow archers. :tiphat:

To be to the point, I am roleplaying a human scout (one of my first characters ever) that specializes in mounted combat with a light war horse. Now, I have craft (making arrows, fletching ect) and now I have a wide arrangment of arrow option open to me. I was thinking of making some adamentine arrows and silver arrows, but beyond that I am asking all of you, are there any specific types of arrows I can build or use that will be of great advantage to me? I would like to have a different one for each situation.

Thank you.
Alcalientre
08-07-06, 11:59 AM What types of arrows you should get depends on your campaign. You probably don't want to spend money on arrows that bypass every single concievable type of damage reduction. If you ever have a good idea of what you'll be going up against soon, find out what type of arrows you'll want against it and try to get some.
Some suggestions though, beyond silver and adamantine, would be cold iron, flaming (for regeneration), and holy/unholy (depending on what type of campaign you are playing). Also, I forget what they're called but there are these arrows that also deal slashing damage, which will be useful for fighting various undead.
mvincent
08-07-06, 03:05 PM Special arrows can be expensive if used often, but my recommendations are:
Ghost touch+undead bane arrows (4), Brilliant energy Arrows (4), silver arrows (12), adamantine arrows (8), and cold iron arrows (all the rest... they're cheap)

Since constructs and undead have terrible Fort saves, also carry a single Undead Slaying Arrow and a Construct Slaying Arrow.

If your DM allows them (unlikely, but you can check), get spell-storing arrows loaded with: blindness, hideous laughter, and Inflict Serious Wounds (and possibly cure serious wounds if you want to heal your allies quickly).

Other recommendations:
+1 holy, wounding bow
Greater magic weapon cast on it by ally spellcaster with bead of karma
Flame arrow cast on ammo
Dalthbar
08-07-06, 03:08 PM If your DM allows them (unlikely, but you can check), get spell-storing arrows loaded with: blindness, hideous laughter, and Inflict Serious Wounds (and possibly cure serious wounds if you want to heal your allies quickly).

To use a Spell Storing arrow you'd have to use it as a melee weapon.
SageBahamut
08-07-06, 03:25 PM There was a whole big long argument over arrows of spell storing on another thread. Frankly I'm annoyed by it. If you /really/ want to use arrows to heal, go bard + arcane archer. Or just have your arrowheads enchanted individually as single-use wondrous items (which can get expensive).

I've also seen arrows built to accept vials, which can be a good way to deliver oil of impact (if you have the Alchemy), poison (if you have the Poisonmaking), or oils of spells (if your DM allows that).

Otherwise mvincent has it covered.
BlackFiend
08-07-06, 03:45 PM Unfortunately, none of the magic arrows are available for you to craft.
You need to be a spell caster with the item creation feat Create Magic Arms and Armor. Or you need a spell caster under your employ with the ability to make them custom for you.

You are looking for NON magical arrow options. You have a selection, but its not as wide and indepth as one would dream without magic crafting.
mvincent
08-07-06, 04:17 PM To use a Spell Storing arrow you'd have to use it as a melee weapon.BY RAW, yup, pretty much. But the whole thing is subject to DM preference anyway (which is why I specifically said to ask them).

There was a whole big long argument over arrows of spell storing on another thread. Frankly I'm annoyed by it.Yeah, I'm annoyed by the dozens of debates on it as well... it's why I always make sure to add ellaborate stipulations like "If your DM allows them (unlikely, but you can check)" before ever mentioning them. But some people can still be set off even with such disclaimers. Probably best to just provide a link to one of the debates (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=9743664) and let the players decide for themselves.
Bringer of autumn
08-07-06, 05:48 PM There was a whole big long argument over arrows of spell storing on another thread. Frankly I'm annoyed by it. If you /really/ want to use arrows to heal, go bard + arcane archer. Or just have your arrowheads enchanted individually as single-use wondrous items (which can get expensive).

I've also seen arrows built to accept vials, which can be a good way to deliver oil of impact (if you have the Alchemy), poison (if you have the Poisonmaking), or oils of spells (if your DM allows that).

Otherwise mvincent has it covered.
What would I need to craft a arrow with a vial in it?
MistWolf
08-07-06, 05:57 PM What would I need to craft a arrow with a vial in it?You want an arrow that heals? Try this- A blunt arrow does subdual damage. All subdual damage is healed when a creature is healed for even 1 point. Take a blunt arrow, make a small pouch on the head & fill it with a dose of Keoughtums' ointment. Get permission from your parents before calling, and be sure to check with your DM.

Other arrows? Have Continual Light cast on a few to help see what's down a darkened hall or room. You can also use them to light up an enemy for your allies. You might also be able to bluff the enemy into thinking you've hit them with something really nasty.

Cast Magic Mouth on them
mvincent
08-07-06, 06:23 PM A symbol spell on an arrow might be useful, since arrows are destroyed on a successful hit, and symbols are activated if their writing surface is destroyed.

(offer may be void in some campaigns)
Radijs
08-07-06, 06:27 PM All subdual damage is healed when a creature is healed for even 1 point.
Actually thats a rule from 3.0 IIRC. In 3.5 its a little bit diffrent. When you are healed for X amount of HP you also heal an X amount of subdual damage.
Hanchicken
08-07-06, 09:05 PM Y'know, I saw this thread and immediately I thought of Green Arrow from DC comics and Hawkeye from Marvel comics.
Hawkeye had boomerang arrows, glue arrows, explosive arrows, adamantium arrows, sonic arrows, and bola arrows.
Green Arrow had the famous boxing glove arrow, net arrows, and other types of concussive arrows.
I think it would be great to model an Archer after one of them. It would be pretty easy to create those types of arrows.
archerpwr
08-10-06, 01:42 PM would prolly be best to use nonmagical arrows and take a level of duskblade and just be an arcane archer. that way you can bypass almost any dmg reduction (and at only lvl 7 at that) and get a few of the useful duskblade spells. other than the bard thing follow the advice above its all good.

PS in the scout skirmish description it says that skirmish only happens if THE SCOUT moves ten feet (so a mounted scout loses all skirmish bonus). if you want mounted archer jus take some lvls in ninja cuz sudden strike works exactly as sneak attack ranged and free invisibility. so a ninja can be mounted and still get extra dmg while mounted due to ghost step, but a scout does not gain anything mounted. so forego the mount. or go ninja (a ninja in light armor does not lose any abilities that he can use while mounted).
Nator
08-12-06, 07:37 PM My favorite arrows are the exploding kind. Every DM that I've ever gotten them from has had his own way of deeling with them, so ask you DM if you can make them and how he will treat them.

Nator
somogyi
08-12-06, 10:44 PM well theres blunt arrow for sub dmg, alchemical arrows, acid arrows, holly water arrows, theres the one arrow thats shaped like a fork from the races of the wild, glass arrows, frozen poo arrows (cause disease), armor piercing arrows, signal arrows, flight arrows. tahts all i can think of right now. btw the frozen poo arrow have to be stored in stasis till fired or they melt.
lasseram
08-13-06, 08:22 AM I'm in the arrow launching business myself. In this thread (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=9331786) you can read a similar ;) discussion from a not so far away past. At the very end there are two lists of utility arrows.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Bringer of autumn 08-07-06, 11:46 AM	Hello fellow archers. :tiphat: To be to the point, I am roleplaying a human scout (one of my first characters ever) that specializes in mounted combat with a light war horse. Now, I have craft (making arrows, fletching ect) and now I have a wide arrangment of arrow option open to me. I was thinking of making some adamentine arrows and silver arrows, but beyond that I am asking all of you, are there any specific types of arrows I can build or use that will be of great advantage to me? I would like to have a different one for each situation. Thank you.
Alcalientre 08-07-06, 11:59 AM	What types of arrows you should get depends on your campaign. You probably don't want to spend money on arrows that bypass every single concievable type of damage reduction. If you ever have a good idea of what you'll be going up against soon, find out what type of arrows you'll want against it and try to get some. Some suggestions though, beyond silver and adamantine, would be cold iron, flaming (for regeneration), and holy/unholy (depending on what type of campaign you are playing). Also, I forget what they're called but there are these arrows that also deal slashing damage, which will be useful for fighting various undead.
mvincent 08-07-06, 03:05 PM	Special arrows can be expensive if used often, but my recommendations are: Ghost touch+undead bane arrows (4), Brilliant energy Arrows (4), silver arrows (12), adamantine arrows (8), and cold iron arrows (all the rest... they're cheap) Since constructs and undead have terrible Fort saves, also carry a single Undead Slaying Arrow and a Construct Slaying Arrow. If your DM allows them (unlikely, but you can check), get spell-storing arrows loaded with: blindness, hideous laughter, and Inflict Serious Wounds (and possibly cure serious wounds if you want to heal your allies quickly). Other recommendations: +1 holy, wounding bow Greater magic weapon cast on it by ally spellcaster with bead of karma Flame arrow cast on ammo
Dalthbar 08-07-06, 03:08 PM	If your DM allows them (unlikely, but you can check), get spell-storing arrows loaded with: blindness, hideous laughter, and Inflict Serious Wounds (and possibly cure serious wounds if you want to heal your allies quickly). To use a Spell Storing arrow you'd have to use it as a melee weapon.
SageBahamut 08-07-06, 03:25 PM	There was a whole big long argument over arrows of spell storing on another thread. Frankly I'm annoyed by it. If you /really/ want to use arrows to heal, go bard + arcane archer. Or just have your arrowheads enchanted individually as single-use wondrous items (which can get expensive). I've also seen arrows built to accept vials, which can be a good way to deliver oil of impact (if you have the Alchemy), poison (if you have the Poisonmaking), or oils of spells (if your DM allows that). Otherwise mvincent has it covered.
BlackFiend 08-07-06, 03:45 PM	Unfortunately, none of the magic arrows are available for you to craft. You need to be a spell caster with the item creation feat Create Magic Arms and Armor. Or you need a spell caster under your employ with the ability to make them custom for you. You are looking for NON magical arrow options. You have a selection, but its not as wide and indepth as one would dream without magic crafting.
mvincent 08-07-06, 04:17 PM	To use a Spell Storing arrow you'd have to use it as a melee weapon.BY RAW, yup, pretty much. But the whole thing is subject to DM preference anyway (which is why I specifically said to ask them). There was a whole big long argument over arrows of spell storing on another thread. Frankly I'm annoyed by it.Yeah, I'm annoyed by the dozens of debates on it as well... it's why I always make sure to add ellaborate stipulations like "If your DM allows them (unlikely, but you can check)" before ever mentioning them. But some people can still be set off even with such disclaimers. Probably best to just provide a link to one of the debates (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=9743664) and let the players decide for themselves.
Bringer of autumn 08-07-06, 05:48 PM	There was a whole big long argument over arrows of spell storing on another thread. Frankly I'm annoyed by it. If you /really/ want to use arrows to heal, go bard + arcane archer. Or just have your arrowheads enchanted individually as single-use wondrous items (which can get expensive). I've also seen arrows built to accept vials, which can be a good way to deliver oil of impact (if you have the Alchemy), poison (if you have the Poisonmaking), or oils of spells (if your DM allows that). Otherwise mvincent has it covered. What would I need to craft a arrow with a vial in it?
MistWolf 08-07-06, 05:57 PM	What would I need to craft a arrow with a vial in it?You want an arrow that heals? Try this- A blunt arrow does subdual damage. All subdual damage is healed when a creature is healed for even 1 point. Take a blunt arrow, make a small pouch on the head & fill it with a dose of Keoughtums' ointment. Get permission from your parents before calling, and be sure to check with your DM. Other arrows? Have Continual Light cast on a few to help see what's down a darkened hall or room. You can also use them to light up an enemy for your allies. You might also be able to bluff the enemy into thinking you've hit them with something really nasty. Cast Magic Mouth on them
mvincent 08-07-06, 06:23 PM	A symbol spell on an arrow might be useful, since arrows are destroyed on a successful hit, and symbols are activated if their writing surface is destroyed. (offer may be void in some campaigns)
Radijs 08-07-06, 06:27 PM	All subdual damage is healed when a creature is healed for even 1 point. Actually thats a rule from 3.0 IIRC. In 3.5 its a little bit diffrent. When you are healed for X amount of HP you also heal an X amount of subdual damage.
Hanchicken 08-07-06, 09:05 PM	Y'know, I saw this thread and immediately I thought of Green Arrow from DC comics and Hawkeye from Marvel comics. Hawkeye had boomerang arrows, glue arrows, explosive arrows, adamantium arrows, sonic arrows, and bola arrows. Green Arrow had the famous boxing glove arrow, net arrows, and other types of concussive arrows. I think it would be great to model an Archer after one of them. It would be pretty easy to create those types of arrows.
archerpwr 08-10-06, 01:42 PM	would prolly be best to use nonmagical arrows and take a level of duskblade and just be an arcane archer. that way you can bypass almost any dmg reduction (and at only lvl 7 at that) and get a few of the useful duskblade spells. other than the bard thing follow the advice above its all good. PS in the scout skirmish description it says that skirmish only happens if THE SCOUT moves ten feet (so a mounted scout loses all skirmish bonus). if you want mounted archer jus take some lvls in ninja cuz sudden strike works exactly as sneak attack ranged and free invisibility. so a ninja can be mounted and still get extra dmg while mounted due to ghost step, but a scout does not gain anything mounted. so forego the mount. or go ninja (a ninja in light armor does not lose any abilities that he can use while mounted).
Nator 08-12-06, 07:37 PM	My favorite arrows are the exploding kind. Every DM that I've ever gotten them from has had his own way of deeling with them, so ask you DM if you can make them and how he will treat them. Nator
somogyi 08-12-06, 10:44 PM	well theres blunt arrow for sub dmg, alchemical arrows, acid arrows, holly water arrows, theres the one arrow thats shaped like a fork from the races of the wild, glass arrows, frozen poo arrows (cause disease), armor piercing arrows, signal arrows, flight arrows. tahts all i can think of right now. btw the frozen poo arrow have to be stored in stasis till fired or they melt.
lasseram 08-13-06, 08:22 AM	I'm in the arrow launching business myself. In this thread (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=9331786) you can read a similar ;) discussion from a not so far away past. At the very end there are two lists of utility arrows.