Assassin's Dagger [Archive] - Wizards Community

Assassin's Dagger [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Trystan
07-31-07, 06:41 AM This is a multi-part question.
1) What is the actual breakdown of the price and cost to create an Assassin's Dagger? Is it a +3 total Enchancement or is it a +2 Enhancement with an additional 10,000 gp ability??
This is something that has not really been discussed as far as I can see.

2) If it is a +3 total Enchancement, does that mean that the +1 DC to Death Attack is a +1 Equiv. Enhancement?? What is the Equiv. Enhancement to get a +2 DC, +3 DC...+5 DC to a Death Attack.

3) If the +1DC is an additional 10,000gp ability, what is the price for .....+5 DC to Death Attack??
tarkin
07-31-07, 11:03 AM 1) What is the actual breakdown of the price and cost to create an Assassin's Dagger?

There is no breakdown. They had the opportunity to make it as an add on to a enchantment and choose NOT to do that. It is a set item, take it or leave it, per the core rules. But I, like many other people, would let you do it.

2) Yes, you are in effect getting a +1 DC for a +1 magic enchantmen. It is not +1 DC for 10,000 gp, it is +1 magic weapon enchantement that effectively grants +1 DC.

This is a magic weapon, not a wonderous item, and more importantly it is a magic weapon enchantment directly related to damage/killing using an attack.

3) In many games, you would not be allowed to simply stack on additional +1 DCs. That said, this is what I would expect:

Strict Game: Not allowed to make a +2 DC version at all.

Loose Game/Power Game: If you want a +5 to the DC, it will cost as a +5 enchantment: Assains Dagger, +2 to hit, +5 to DC: 98,302 gp.

Anything Goes Game: Sure, let's pretend 10,000 is fair, so call it 50,302 gp.
Trystan
07-31-07, 11:28 AM Personally, the 10,000 gp idea seems low to me and I lean toward the idea that +1 DC = +1 Enchancement and +2=+2, etc..., because it demonstrates a scaling price as the ability increases. That idea is a much more balanced approach.
Trystan
07-31-07, 05:15 PM So...does someone have a more OFFICIAL approach or should we accept this idea as pretty darn close to OFFICIAL???
Trystan
08-13-07, 10:13 PM So...is everyone in agreement that the Assassins Dagger is a +2 Enhancement bonus plus a +1 Special Ability of +1 DC to Death Attack??

That would make a +2 DC to Death Attack a +2 Special Ability!!

I know someone likes playing Assassins, c'mon join in and spread the word...let show the world how kool Assassins are!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Trystan 07-31-07, 06:41 AM	This is a multi-part question. 1) What is the actual breakdown of the price and cost to create an Assassin's Dagger? Is it a +3 total Enchancement or is it a +2 Enhancement with an additional 10,000 gp ability?? This is something that has not really been discussed as far as I can see. 2) If it is a +3 total Enchancement, does that mean that the +1 DC to Death Attack is a +1 Equiv. Enhancement?? What is the Equiv. Enhancement to get a +2 DC, +3 DC...+5 DC to a Death Attack. 3) If the +1DC is an additional 10,000gp ability, what is the price for .....+5 DC to Death Attack??
tarkin 07-31-07, 11:03 AM	1) What is the actual breakdown of the price and cost to create an Assassin's Dagger? There is no breakdown. They had the opportunity to make it as an add on to a enchantment and choose NOT to do that. It is a set item, take it or leave it, per the core rules. But I, like many other people, would let you do it. 2) Yes, you are in effect getting a +1 DC for a +1 magic enchantmen. It is not +1 DC for 10,000 gp, it is +1 magic weapon enchantement that effectively grants +1 DC. This is a magic weapon, not a wonderous item, and more importantly it is a magic weapon enchantment directly related to damage/killing using an attack. 3) In many games, you would not be allowed to simply stack on additional +1 DCs. That said, this is what I would expect: Strict Game: Not allowed to make a +2 DC version at all. Loose Game/Power Game: If you want a +5 to the DC, it will cost as a +5 enchantment: Assains Dagger, +2 to hit, +5 to DC: 98,302 gp. Anything Goes Game: Sure, let's pretend 10,000 is fair, so call it 50,302 gp.
Trystan 07-31-07, 11:28 AM	Personally, the 10,000 gp idea seems low to me and I lean toward the idea that +1 DC = +1 Enchancement and +2=+2, etc..., because it demonstrates a scaling price as the ability increases. That idea is a much more balanced approach.
Trystan 07-31-07, 05:15 PM	So...does someone have a more OFFICIAL approach or should we accept this idea as pretty darn close to OFFICIAL???
Trystan 08-13-07, 10:13 PM	So...is everyone in agreement that the Assassins Dagger is a +2 Enhancement bonus plus a +1 Special Ability of +1 DC to Death Attack?? That would make a +2 DC to Death Attack a +2 Special Ability!! I know someone likes playing Assassins, c'mon join in and spread the word...let show the world how kool Assassins are!