attacks of opportunity and ranged weapons [Archive] - Wizards Community

attacks of opportunity and ranged weapons [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
siriusranger87
03-29-05, 04:41 PM i think that someone wielding a bow should have different rules for attacks of opportunity
someone with a bow would probably not attack someone within 5 feet of them since that in effect causes them to provoke an attack of opportunity
i think it should be more like a bow wielding character threatens an area farther than 5 feet and less than 30 feet away unless you have close combat shot, then you do threaten characters within 5 feet

summary
ranged attack of opportunity
range: more than 5ft less than 30ft
actions that provoke attack of opportunity
distracting actions (picking up weapon, standing up from prone etc.
casting spells??? (im not sure opinion needed)
moving does not provoke an attack of opportunity

what do you think?
tarkin
03-29-05, 04:44 PM Using the official d20 rules, Bows do not threaten at all and you can NOT take AoO's with them.

Rethink what you wrote in light of this information.

This is caused by the way by the basic difference between melee combat and ranged combat.

Ranged combat is, take some time, aim a single blow, and take it per BAB you have.

Melee combat is instead, maintain a constant series of jabs, and when you think an opening is availalbe, convert a jab into a real blow, getting one such conversion per BAB you have.

These constant fake jabs are what create the threat zone, and an AoO is simply the ability to see extra openings, and convert another Jab into a real blow.
siriusranger87
03-29-05, 05:54 PM how about a feat

opportunist archer
preq imp initiative point blank shot precise shot rapid shot

benefit
you now threaten an area at least 5 feat away to no more than 30 ft away
causing distracted characters to provoke an attack of opportunity
this works like normal attacks of opportunity except opponents do not provoke attacks by moving or casting spells, only distracting actions (picking up a weapon, standing up from prone)

special

clost combat shot allows you to threaten opponents within 5 feat
combat reflexes applies to ranged attacks of opportunity as normal
Kinghappo
03-30-05, 09:27 AM I do rember that in the book "Ultimate feats" there used to be an actual feat for it called "Opportunity Shot"

Quote
Oppturnity Shot - You shoot so fast that you make ranged attaks of opportunity at point blank range
prerequisites: BAB +8 or higher, Dex 13+, Point blank shot, Rapid shot
Benefit: When armed with a ranged weapon that is ready for use you have an effictive reach of 30 ft (up to the range of your weapon) and can make ranged attacks of opportunity in any area out to this range. You may not make ranged attacks of opportunity if you are standing in an area threatened by an opponent.
Special: if you use rabid shot in the same round as you use opportunity shot, the -2 attack penality applies to opportunity shot as well.
Note: you cannot make an attack of opportunity against an opponent with half or mover cover, such as behind another character.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
siriusranger87 03-29-05, 04:41 PM	i think that someone wielding a bow should have different rules for attacks of opportunity someone with a bow would probably not attack someone within 5 feet of them since that in effect causes them to provoke an attack of opportunity i think it should be more like a bow wielding character threatens an area farther than 5 feet and less than 30 feet away unless you have close combat shot, then you do threaten characters within 5 feet summary ranged attack of opportunity range: more than 5ft less than 30ft actions that provoke attack of opportunity distracting actions (picking up weapon, standing up from prone etc. casting spells??? (im not sure opinion needed) moving does not provoke an attack of opportunity what do you think?
tarkin 03-29-05, 04:44 PM	Using the official d20 rules, Bows do not threaten at all and you can NOT take AoO's with them. Rethink what you wrote in light of this information. This is caused by the way by the basic difference between melee combat and ranged combat. Ranged combat is, take some time, aim a single blow, and take it per BAB you have. Melee combat is instead, maintain a constant series of jabs, and when you think an opening is availalbe, convert a jab into a real blow, getting one such conversion per BAB you have. These constant fake jabs are what create the threat zone, and an AoO is simply the ability to see extra openings, and convert another Jab into a real blow.
siriusranger87 03-29-05, 05:54 PM	how about a feat opportunist archer preq imp initiative point blank shot precise shot rapid shot benefit you now threaten an area at least 5 feat away to no more than 30 ft away causing distracted characters to provoke an attack of opportunity this works like normal attacks of opportunity except opponents do not provoke attacks by moving or casting spells, only distracting actions (picking up a weapon, standing up from prone) special clost combat shot allows you to threaten opponents within 5 feat combat reflexes applies to ranged attacks of opportunity as normal
Kinghappo 03-30-05, 09:27 AM	I do rember that in the book "Ultimate feats" there used to be an actual feat for it called "Opportunity Shot" Quote Oppturnity Shot - You shoot so fast that you make ranged attaks of opportunity at point blank range prerequisites: BAB +8 or higher, Dex 13+, Point blank shot, Rapid shot Benefit: When armed with a ranged weapon that is ready for use you have an effictive reach of 30 ft (up to the range of your weapon) and can make ranged attacks of opportunity in any area out to this range. You may not make ranged attacks of opportunity if you are standing in an area threatened by an opponent. Special: if you use rabid shot in the same round as you use opportunity shot, the -2 attack penality applies to opportunity shot as well. Note: you cannot make an attack of opportunity against an opponent with half or mover cover, such as behind another character.