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Hantle_Scantle

02-06-06, 07:39 AM
This one should be easy but I cannot find any definitive rulings..

say I am a stock standard 20th level fighter how many attacks per round would I have with a longbow

Then how many would I have with multishot / Rapid shot / improved rapid shot?

My thaughts is that with multishot I can fire 16 arrows (4 attack with 4 arrows)

with rapid and multi I can fire 32 arrows am I correct? (4 attacks with 4 arrows x2)
Sir Knight

02-06-06, 08:25 AM
Ranged weapons work the same way as melee, except crossbows due to their reload time.

A 20th level Fighter with a longbow has four attacks.

Multishot is a Standard Action thus you can only do it once no matter how many attacks you have.

Rapid Shot gives you an extra attack but all are at a penalty so you would have five shots.

That help?
tarkin

02-06-06, 08:31 AM
No. You are WAY off.

Straight fighter, no feats = 4 shots.

With Rapid Shot, 5 shots.

With Improved Rapid Shot, 5 shots (but no -2 penalty to hit)

With Manyshot, 4 arrows (from 1 'shot')

With Epic feat Improved Manyshot: 4 arrows at 16th level, but potentially unlimited (+1 arrow/5 BAB)
Egres

02-06-06, 08:40 AM
With Manyshot, 8 shots

tarkin...?!?

what did you eat this morning?
Dragonteuthis

02-06-06, 09:01 AM
Tarkin is correct except for Manyshot. You only get one attack roll with manyshot, as it is a Standard action.
tarkin

02-06-06, 01:48 PM
Sorry, I worded it poorly. People think that "shot" meant attack.

I will clarify it.
mvincent

02-06-06, 01:59 PM
With Manyshot, 8 arrows (from 1 'shot')Still incorrect. The rules (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#manyshot) say:
"For every five points of base attack bonus you have above +6, you may add one additional arrow to this attack, to a maximum of four arrows at a base attack bonus of +16."
DrMorganes

02-06-06, 02:15 PM
With Epic feat Improved Manyshot: 8 arrows at 20th level, but potentially unlimited (+1 arrow/5 BAB)
I'm not sure that's quite right, either. Base Attack Bonus stops increasing at Level 20. Epic-level characters gain an Epic Attack Bonus, but if memory serves this is NOT a continuance of the BAB progression. BAB stays capped at 20 for full-progression PCs, and all abilities based off it - like iterative attacks and manyshot - also remain the same.
mvincent

02-06-06, 02:30 PM
Base Attack Bonus stops increasing at Level 20. Epic-level characters gain an Epic Attack Bonus, but if memory serves this is NOT a continuance of the BAB progression. BAB stays capped at 20 for full-progression PCs, and all abilities based off it - like iterative attacks and manyshot - also remain the same.The rules (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/basics.htm#epicAttackBonus) say:
"Any time a feat, prestige class, or other rule refers to your base attack bonus (except for gaining additional attacks), use the sum of your base attack bonus and epic attack bonus."

Note: the reference to "additional attacks" refers only to the standard BAB progression, rather than all additional attacks. The epic rules (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/feats.htm#improvedManyshot) for Improved Manyshot seem predicated on this fact:
"As Manyshot, but the number of arrows you can fire is limited only by your base attack bonus (two arrows, plus one arrow for every 5 points of base attack bonus above +6).
Hantle_Scantle

02-06-06, 04:42 PM
Ok so given this what feats and prestege classes do you need to get lots of attacks with a bow