Attended Object Saving Throw Bonus [Archive] - Wizards Community

Attended Object Saving Throw Bonus [Archive] - Wizards Community

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CelestialBarbarian
08-03-06, 11:27 PM The PHB on page 167 says that "an attended magic item either makes saving throws as its owner or uses its own saving throw bonus, whichever is higher."

Does "makes saving throw as its owner" mean that it gets the total saving throw bonus of its owner or, like a familiar, only the owner's base saving throw bonus?
Radijs
08-04-06, 02:44 AM Attended objects get the total benefit of their users saving throw. Base save, ability modifier and every other bonus you can think off added in.

Or they can use their own save which is 1/3rd of their caster level.
Merestil Haye
08-04-06, 04:38 AM Attended objects get the total benefit of their users saving throw. Base save, ability modifier and every other bonus you can think off added in.

Or they can use their own save which is 1/3rd of their caster level.Magic items have good saving throws - 2 + ½ the caster level.
CelestialBarbarian
08-04-06, 09:32 AM Attended objects get the total benefit of their users saving throw. Base save, ability modifier and every other bonus you can think off added in.

Is this your interpretation of "makes saving throws as its owner" from page 167 of PHB, or is there other text elsewhere that clarifies? Thanks! :)

Or they can use their own save which is 1/3rd of their caster level.

What Merestil Haye said. ;)
ShinAkuma2
08-04-06, 01:09 PM Is this your interpretation of "makes saving throws as its owner" from page 167 of PHB, or is there other text elsewhere that clarifies? Thanks! :)

That's the correct interpretation...It makes a save "as you do." How do you make a save? d20+all of your relevant modifiers. If it meant it had your base saves, it would say so, as it does in the case of a familiar.

A magic item’s saving throw bonus equals 2 + one-half its caster level (round down). The only exceptions to this are intelligent magic items, which make Will saves based on their own Wisdom scores.

Quick note, a weapon/armor that has only a numeric bonus has a caster level equal to 3 times its bonus. A +1 longsword has a CL of 3, thus its saves are +3. A +2 longsword has a +5, and so on.

These tidbits of knowledge get tucked away, and it's nice to have them pointed out sometimes, eh?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
CelestialBarbarian 08-03-06, 11:27 PM	The PHB on page 167 says that "an attended magic item either makes saving throws as its owner or uses its own saving throw bonus, whichever is higher." Does "makes saving throw as its owner" mean that it gets the total saving throw bonus of its owner or, like a familiar, only the owner's base saving throw bonus?
Radijs 08-04-06, 02:44 AM	Attended objects get the total benefit of their users saving throw. Base save, ability modifier and every other bonus you can think off added in. Or they can use their own save which is 1/3rd of their caster level.
Merestil Haye 08-04-06, 04:38 AM	Attended objects get the total benefit of their users saving throw. Base save, ability modifier and every other bonus you can think off added in. Or they can use their own save which is 1/3rd of their caster level.Magic items have good saving throws - 2 + ½ the caster level.
CelestialBarbarian 08-04-06, 09:32 AM	Attended objects get the total benefit of their users saving throw. Base save, ability modifier and every other bonus you can think off added in. Is this your interpretation of "makes saving throws as its owner" from page 167 of PHB, or is there other text elsewhere that clarifies? Thanks! :) Or they can use their own save which is 1/3rd of their caster level. What Merestil Haye said. ;)
ShinAkuma2 08-04-06, 01:09 PM	Is this your interpretation of "makes saving throws as its owner" from page 167 of PHB, or is there other text elsewhere that clarifies? Thanks! :) That's the correct interpretation...It makes a save "as you do." How do you make a save? d20+all of your relevant modifiers. If it meant it had your base saves, it would say so, as it does in the case of a familiar. A magic item’s saving throw bonus equals 2 + one-half its caster level (round down). The only exceptions to this are intelligent magic items, which make Will saves based on their own Wisdom scores. Quick note, a weapon/armor that has only a numeric bonus has a caster level equal to 3 times its bonus. A +1 longsword has a CL of 3, thus its saves are +3. A +2 longsword has a +5, and so on. These tidbits of knowledge get tucked away, and it's nice to have them pointed out sometimes, eh?