Bane Weapons and Half-Bloods [Archive] - Wizards Community

Bane Weapons and Half-Bloods [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Thelon Fairblade
05-11-05, 08:59 AM I was thinking...

If an elf bane weapon is +2 to hit and +2d6 damage, should it maybe be +1 to hit and +1d6 damage against a half-elf?

After all, isn't a half-elf vulnerable to human-bane weapons too?

Secondly, could you have a "half-blood-bane" weapon? +2 to hit and +2d6 against any "Half-X", like half-celestials, half-fiends, half-elves, half-dragons, etc?
Santrilla
05-11-05, 09:05 AM I'm pretty sure that one of the 'downfalls' or balancing factors of the Half-Elf is that they're considered both human and elf for magical effects.

If you wanted to, I'd see no reason why you couldn't make a half-elf bane weapon, but I think a half-anything bane weapon would be a BIT extreme.
Greyman
05-11-05, 11:21 AM I was thinking...

If an elf bane weapon is +2 to hit and +2d6 damage, should it maybe be +1 to hit and +1d6 damage against a half-elf?

After all, isn't a half-elf vulnerable to human-bane weapons too?Nope. An half-elf has Elf Blood trait, and the Elf sub-type, and thus is considered an elf for racial effects, such as bane weapons and ranger favoured enemy bonuses. An half-elf does not have the Human sub-type, and thus is not considered a human for such effects.Secondly, could you have a "half-blood-bane" weapon? +2 to hit and +2d6 against any "Half-X", like half-celestials, half-fiends, half-elves, half-dragons, etc?No, they are already covered by their type. Half-Celestials are Outsiders (Native -usually), Half-Fiends also. Half-elves are Humanoids (Elf) and half-orcs are Humanoid (Orc). Finally Half-dragons are Dragons.
CzarGarrett
05-11-05, 01:10 PM There is, however, a set of feats that allow Half-Bloods to be considered Human rather than Orc or Elvish.

I think they were in Dragon or Unearthed Arcana, so its not necessarily allowed in every game.
cwslyclgh
05-11-05, 04:07 PM There is, however, a set of feats that allow Half-Bloods to be considered Human rather than Orc or Elvish.

and in that case they would take extra damage from human bane weapons and not from elf or orc bane weapons (as the case may be).
Tsuul
05-11-05, 04:25 PM Not a bad idea for a HR.
Add in the feats that have you consider yourself as one race over another and you're on your way to "DnDizing" Blade.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Thelon Fairblade 05-11-05, 08:59 AM	I was thinking... If an elf bane weapon is +2 to hit and +2d6 damage, should it maybe be +1 to hit and +1d6 damage against a half-elf? After all, isn't a half-elf vulnerable to human-bane weapons too? Secondly, could you have a "half-blood-bane" weapon? +2 to hit and +2d6 against any "Half-X", like half-celestials, half-fiends, half-elves, half-dragons, etc?
Santrilla 05-11-05, 09:05 AM	I'm pretty sure that one of the 'downfalls' or balancing factors of the Half-Elf is that they're considered both human and elf for magical effects. If you wanted to, I'd see no reason why you couldn't make a half-elf bane weapon, but I think a half-anything bane weapon would be a BIT extreme.
Greyman 05-11-05, 11:21 AM	I was thinking... If an elf bane weapon is +2 to hit and +2d6 damage, should it maybe be +1 to hit and +1d6 damage against a half-elf? After all, isn't a half-elf vulnerable to human-bane weapons too?Nope. An half-elf has Elf Blood trait, and the Elf sub-type, and thus is considered an elf for racial effects, such as bane weapons and ranger favoured enemy bonuses. An half-elf does not have the Human sub-type, and thus is not considered a human for such effects.Secondly, could you have a "half-blood-bane" weapon? +2 to hit and +2d6 against any "Half-X", like half-celestials, half-fiends, half-elves, half-dragons, etc?No, they are already covered by their type. Half-Celestials are Outsiders (Native -usually), Half-Fiends also. Half-elves are Humanoids (Elf) and half-orcs are Humanoid (Orc). Finally Half-dragons are Dragons.
CzarGarrett 05-11-05, 01:10 PM	There is, however, a set of feats that allow Half-Bloods to be considered Human rather than Orc or Elvish. I think they were in Dragon or Unearthed Arcana, so its not necessarily allowed in every game.
cwslyclgh 05-11-05, 04:07 PM	There is, however, a set of feats that allow Half-Bloods to be considered Human rather than Orc or Elvish. and in that case they would take extra damage from human bane weapons and not from elf or orc bane weapons (as the case may be).
Tsuul 05-11-05, 04:25 PM	Not a bad idea for a HR. Add in the feats that have you consider yourself as one race over another and you're on your way to "DnDizing" Blade.