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Seyrro 05-19-06, 06:12 PM	I'm giving serious consideration to creating a customized weapon, combining two things: The Fingerblade (Sandstorm), and a good ol' fashioned Pistol/Arquebus. I was wondering what sort of mechanics I should use for melee with said weapon - I mean, a gun has moving parts, and thwacking someone with it is likely to cause some of those parts to cease functioning properly. I'm also curious if firing the gun portion of this weapon in Melee should be considered as provoking an Attack of Opportunity, since it isn't JUST a ranged weapon - sort of like a gunblade. Or should I just try treating it as a bayonette? I'm just looking for a few helpful tips on how to proceed and keep it balanced. :)
Seyrro 05-21-06, 12:06 PM	*BUMP* Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Elthbert 05-21-06, 12:34 PM	I'm giving serious consideration to creating a customized weapon, combining two things: The Fingerblade (Sandstorm), and a good ol' fashioned Pistol/Arquebus. I was wondering what sort of mechanics I should use for melee with said weapon - I mean, a gun has moving parts, and thwacking someone with it is likely to cause some of those parts to cease functioning properly. I'm also curious if firing the gun portion of this weapon in Melee should be considered as provoking an Attack of Opportunity, since it isn't JUST a ranged weapon - sort of like a gunblade. Or should I just try treating it as a bayonette? I'm just looking for a few helpful tips on how to proceed and keep it balanced. :) well I don't understand what you are asking, bayonetting people doesn't hurt the gun, nor frankly does hitting someone with one, rifles were regularly used as clubs before the invention of the bayonette and still are in many situations. (edit--ooops) This rarely ever hurt the weapon. I would say that you provokethe AoO by lining up for your shot and such as much as that you are not as threatening to opponants without a melee weapon. So I would say this weapon would still provoke an AoO. But you could certianly rule otherwise.
Watchman 05-21-06, 12:53 PM	A bayonet stuck on a long-arm ought to be about equal to a spear of suitable size in combat. Pretty much the same thing really - pointy thing atop a stick. That the stick is largely made out of metal and used to chemically propel projectiles is rather irrelevant. Pistol-sized bayonets ought to be about equal to daggers. The things tended to be pretty small (often for example nothing more than a folding long spike) after all. If you want bigger ones, get one of those wacky axes, maces and suchlike with a built-in pistol (at least one Indian two-handed sword with a - I kid you not - carbine built into the handle with the barrel opposite the blade is known too...) which cost a small fortune and primarily served as prestige toys. Dunno about how the bigger sword-bayonets (most of which would in D&D terms be Shortswords on their own) should be treated though. I understand they turned the long-arms into semi-decent cut-and-thrust polearms.
Seyrro 05-25-06, 01:58 PM	The Fingerblade in Sandstorm (the weapon upon which I am basing the bladed portion) is treated as an exotic short sword which does Piercing damage. The handle is designed in such a fashion that it fits your hand much like a pistol's handle does, and if used properly the fingerblade is supposed to be almost an extension of your index finger - basically it's a sword that you hold like a gun. Because there isn't any slippage (due to the way it is held) you do an extra 1d6 damage against flat-footed foes. After reading your posts, what I'm thinking of doing is saying that it is basically a fingerblade (Piercing damage only) with an arquebus pistol attached to it. Firing in Melee provokes AoO's due to time taken to aim,and it deals an additional 1d6 points of damage to flat-footed foes. I'm just hoping my DM will buy into it. (^_^) What would you guys think of saying that if I score a critical hit, instead of doing double damage, I can shoot my opponent as I strike him with the bladed portion? Essentially, this would mean I'd do an additional 1d10 damage instead of 1d6, and it would add some Final Fantasy flavor to the campaign. Yeah, I know - BAD fanfic/whatever you guys call it here. :p P.S. Nice sig, Watchman. :) EDIT: I just HAD to share this link - Gunblades *actually* existed. I found a gallery of gunblade pictures that are actually something way different than the whole FF series displays. :) http://photobucket.com/albums/v405/NinjaNerd321/Gunblades/