Big monk damage [Archive] - Wizards Community

Big monk damage [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Majick
11-17-06, 12:48 AM Ok, simple question, might not have a simple asnwer, because it's kinda stumped me:

monks at lvl 20 do 2d10, and a d10 dice upgraded is a 2d8, so if a Large monk is lvl 20, does he do 4d8 (2d8 + 2d8) now?

This could also be applied to improved natural attack questions i guess, bit u really just wanna know it for the large size issue
unusualsuspect
11-17-06, 12:56 AM Short answer: Yes.

Slightly longer answer: The PHB lists monk unarmed damages for small and large monks. A large monk at 20th level does 4d8 damage. Thus, a 20th level medium monk with Improved Natural Attack will also do 4d8 damage.
thepuregamer
11-17-06, 12:59 AM yes.

2d10-->4d8-->6d8

Monks are huge fans of size increasing. In fact ta lvl 20 when they become outsiders, items of polymorph that get them huge size along with humanoid shape are lovely.
Majick
11-17-06, 01:02 AM Hot damn! Now i can finally play the Half-Ogre monk i've always wanted too! Yay! Hehe ;)
unusualsuspect
11-17-06, 01:08 AM I'm personally a fan of shifter of changeling monks, using warhshaper, Fanged Ring (essentially INA, in item form), and Skin of Proteus to get 12d8 base damage as a huge creature.

to make it clear, you use Monk's Belt (and Superior Unarmed Strike, if you must) to get the base damage to 2d10. Warshaper increases the size of a natural attack of your choice (your unarmed strike qualifies), so 4d8. INA, 6d8. 2 size changes to a Huge Treant, 12d8.
Majick
11-17-06, 01:24 AM Ok... but... i just wanted to be an ogre monk... :(

hehehe :P
pmurray@bigpond.com
11-17-06, 01:35 AM I always wanted to try a stone giant monk, but they have huge racial HD and LA, so not worth it.
unusualsuspect
11-17-06, 02:35 AM I always wanted to try a stone giant monk, but they have huge racial HD and LA, so not worth it.

They might be worth it if their racial HD didn't suck so bad.

I mean, honestly, just about the only racial HD worse than giant is humanoid, and not even by much (if at all).

And for the record, a half-ogre monk will do fine. See if you can get the shapechanger subtype (or a decent alternate form) somehow, though, for warshaper... trust me, it's worth it and in spades for a monk, as it boosts Strength, Constitution, unarmed strike damage, REACH, and gives you fast healing 1, all in 4 levels.
pmurray@bigpond.com
11-19-06, 07:41 PM Half-Ogre warshaper monk. Mmmmm. Camebert? Roquefort?
m o n k
11-19-06, 08:56 PM ...you use Monk's Belt (and Superior Unarmed Strike, if you must) to get the base damage to 2d10....

What source can Superior Unarmed Strike be found in?
wonlee76
11-19-06, 09:20 PM What source can Superior Unarmed Strike be found in?

Tome of Battle

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Majick 11-17-06, 12:48 AM	Ok, simple question, might not have a simple asnwer, because it's kinda stumped me: monks at lvl 20 do 2d10, and a d10 dice upgraded is a 2d8, so if a Large monk is lvl 20, does he do 4d8 (2d8 + 2d8) now? This could also be applied to improved natural attack questions i guess, bit u really just wanna know it for the large size issue
unusualsuspect 11-17-06, 12:56 AM	Short answer: Yes. Slightly longer answer: The PHB lists monk unarmed damages for small and large monks. A large monk at 20th level does 4d8 damage. Thus, a 20th level medium monk with Improved Natural Attack will also do 4d8 damage.
thepuregamer 11-17-06, 12:59 AM	yes. 2d10-->4d8-->6d8 Monks are huge fans of size increasing. In fact ta lvl 20 when they become outsiders, items of polymorph that get them huge size along with humanoid shape are lovely.
Majick 11-17-06, 01:02 AM	Hot damn! Now i can finally play the Half-Ogre monk i've always wanted too! Yay! Hehe ;)
unusualsuspect 11-17-06, 01:08 AM	I'm personally a fan of shifter of changeling monks, using warhshaper, Fanged Ring (essentially INA, in item form), and Skin of Proteus to get 12d8 base damage as a huge creature. to make it clear, you use Monk's Belt (and Superior Unarmed Strike, if you must) to get the base damage to 2d10. Warshaper increases the size of a natural attack of your choice (your unarmed strike qualifies), so 4d8. INA, 6d8. 2 size changes to a Huge Treant, 12d8.
Majick 11-17-06, 01:24 AM	Ok... but... i just wanted to be an ogre monk... :( hehehe :P
pmurray@bigpond.com 11-17-06, 01:35 AM	I always wanted to try a stone giant monk, but they have huge racial HD and LA, so not worth it.
unusualsuspect 11-17-06, 02:35 AM	I always wanted to try a stone giant monk, but they have huge racial HD and LA, so not worth it. They might be worth it if their racial HD didn't suck so bad. I mean, honestly, just about the only racial HD worse than giant is humanoid, and not even by much (if at all). And for the record, a half-ogre monk will do fine. See if you can get the shapechanger subtype (or a decent alternate form) somehow, though, for warshaper... trust me, it's worth it and in spades for a monk, as it boosts Strength, Constitution, unarmed strike damage, REACH, and gives you fast healing 1, all in 4 levels.
pmurray@bigpond.com 11-19-06, 07:41 PM	Half-Ogre warshaper monk. Mmmmm. Camebert? Roquefort?
m o n k 11-19-06, 08:56 PM	...you use Monk's Belt (and Superior Unarmed Strike, if you must) to get the base damage to 2d10.... What source can Superior Unarmed Strike be found in?
wonlee76 11-19-06, 09:20 PM	What source can Superior Unarmed Strike be found in? Tome of Battle