Bite, Claw, Claw + Multiple attacks. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Bite, Claw, Claw + Multiple attacks. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Gnolom
12-28-05, 12:13 PM How does bite, claw, claw work when a players BaB gets high enough to allow for multiple attacks?

Say for instance a char with a clawx2 + bite attack gets 2 attacks due to its BaB. Does it do the full bitex2 + claw twice, for a total of 6 attacks?
tarkin
12-28-05, 12:47 PM Nope. That never ever happens, no matter how high the BAB gets.

But if you have a limb capable of wielding a weapon and a natural attack that does not involve that limb, then you can take your full iterative BAB atttacks with a weapon and use all your natural attacks as Secondary attacks that do not involve using a limb used for the BAB attacks.

I.E. If you have a +1 horn, +1 bite, and two claws attacks each at +6,

You could instead take

Two Great Sword attack at +6 & +1, one horn at +1, and one bite at +1

OR

Two Long Sword attack at +6/+1, one horn at +1, one bite at +1, and a single Claw attack at +1 (shifted down to +1 instead of +6 because it is now a secondary attack.

OR (with the feat TWF and Improved TWF)

Two Long Sword attacks at +4/-1, two Short Sword attacks at +4/-1, one horn at -1, and one bite at -1
00_Whupass
12-28-05, 12:54 PM No, natural weapons do not get extra attacks for high BAB. The one exception is the Monk's fists, since they are considered either natural or manufactured weapons, whichever is most beneficial, which means even thought they're sometimes natural weapons they count as manufactured weapons for the purpose of calculating iterative attack.

So for instance a level 5 druid using a sling (a manufactured weapon) gets 1 attack per round at +3, were the same druid to wildshape into a bear she would get 3 attacks two claws at +3 and one bite at -2. Advance that same druid to level 8, using her sling she now gets 2 attacks at +6/+1 and as the same bear she still only gets the same 3 attacks, 2 claws at +6 and one bite at +1. I hope this helps.
elecgraystone
12-28-05, 06:53 PM How does bite, claw, claw work when a players BaB gets high enough to allow for multiple attacks?

Say for instance a char with a clawx2 + bite attack gets 2 attacks due to its BaB. Does it do the full bitex2 + claw twice, for a total of 6 attacks?
If you want to get multiple attacks AND claw, claw, bite either use unarmed attacks and/or spiked armor.
You can make the full attack with your melee weapon and make your natural attacks at -5 (or -2 with multiattack)
Heck you can even TWF with unarmed attacks/spiked armor and get your natural attacks.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Gnolom 12-28-05, 12:13 PM	How does bite, claw, claw work when a players BaB gets high enough to allow for multiple attacks? Say for instance a char with a clawx2 + bite attack gets 2 attacks due to its BaB. Does it do the full bitex2 + claw twice, for a total of 6 attacks?
tarkin 12-28-05, 12:47 PM	Nope. That never ever happens, no matter how high the BAB gets. But if you have a limb capable of wielding a weapon and a natural attack that does not involve that limb, then you can take your full iterative BAB atttacks with a weapon and use all your natural attacks as Secondary attacks that do not involve using a limb used for the BAB attacks. I.E. If you have a +1 horn, +1 bite, and two claws attacks each at +6, You could instead take Two Great Sword attack at +6 & +1, one horn at +1, and one bite at +1 OR Two Long Sword attack at +6/+1, one horn at +1, one bite at +1, and a single Claw attack at +1 (shifted down to +1 instead of +6 because it is now a secondary attack. OR (with the feat TWF and Improved TWF) Two Long Sword attacks at +4/-1, two Short Sword attacks at +4/-1, one horn at -1, and one bite at -1
00_Whupass 12-28-05, 12:54 PM	No, natural weapons do not get extra attacks for high BAB. The one exception is the Monk's fists, since they are considered either natural or manufactured weapons, whichever is most beneficial, which means even thought they're sometimes natural weapons they count as manufactured weapons for the purpose of calculating iterative attack. So for instance a level 5 druid using a sling (a manufactured weapon) gets 1 attack per round at +3, were the same druid to wildshape into a bear she would get 3 attacks two claws at +3 and one bite at -2. Advance that same druid to level 8, using her sling she now gets 2 attacks at +6/+1 and as the same bear she still only gets the same 3 attacks, 2 claws at +6 and one bite at +1. I hope this helps.
elecgraystone 12-28-05, 06:53 PM	How does bite, claw, claw work when a players BaB gets high enough to allow for multiple attacks? Say for instance a char with a clawx2 + bite attack gets 2 attacks due to its BaB. Does it do the full bitex2 + claw twice, for a total of 6 attacks? If you want to get multiple attacks AND claw, claw, bite either use unarmed attacks and/or spiked armor. You can make the full attack with your melee weapon and make your natural attacks at -5 (or -2 with multiattack) Heck you can even TWF with unarmed attacks/spiked armor and get your natural attacks.