Blunt magic equivalents? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Blunt magic equivalents? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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sandskimmer
10-23-05, 11:13 PM Can anyone tell me what the blunt equivalents of keen, vorpal, and wounding might be and where I would find them?

Thanks!
Ogre4Hire
10-23-05, 11:26 PM The bludgeoning equivilent of Keen is Impacting, and it's found in both the Magic of Faerun and Arms & Equipment Guide.

There are no equivilents of Wounding or Vorpal. Think about it, decapitating someone with a warhammer? And Wounding weapons promote blood loss, while blunt impacts tend to crush blood vessals, reducing bleeding (at least when compaired to other types of injuries).
sandskimmer
10-23-05, 11:28 PM Thanks. But yes, I could see a blunt equivalent of vorpal. Ever hear the phrase "knock your head clean off" ? Also, internal bleeding can be caused by blunt trauma, causing the person to bleed to death internally.
sandskimmer
10-23-05, 11:44 PM How about "crushing" or "smashing" as a blunt equivalent for vorpal? You wholly crush the creature's skull like a pebble being hit with a sledge hammer. Anyone have a thesaurus handy for something better sounding?
tiercel
10-24-05, 03:01 AM If you have, or can borrow, a copy of the Arms and Equipment Guide (even though it's technically 3.0, most of it is fine for 3.5), you could check out the bonebreaker hammer, which is sort of like wounding insofar as it gives Dex damage on a crit.

While I suppose you could, mechanically, put the vorpal effect onto a bludgeoning weapon, the flavor seems a bit off.... that is, all the problems of vorpal flavor text seem worse for "vorpal bludgeoning." It is a bit ridiculous to imagine a M-sized vorpal longsword decapitating a Colossal sized dragon -- I would argue, if anything, it is even more ridiculous imagining an M-sized "vorpal" warhammer doing the equivalent to a Colossal foe.
sandskimmer
10-27-05, 09:56 PM Actually, I've always ruled that vorpal will sever an appendage appropriate to the combat situation. So in your examples, the vorpal ability would sever a foot or toe, giving high combat penalties to dex, AC, etc, but not severe the head. Additionally, I have played where vorpal only adds +1 to the weapons crit multiplier. Perhaps "shattering"?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
sandskimmer 10-23-05, 11:13 PM	Can anyone tell me what the blunt equivalents of keen, vorpal, and wounding might be and where I would find them? Thanks!
Ogre4Hire 10-23-05, 11:26 PM	The bludgeoning equivilent of Keen is Impacting, and it's found in both the Magic of Faerun and Arms & Equipment Guide. There are no equivilents of Wounding or Vorpal. Think about it, decapitating someone with a warhammer? And Wounding weapons promote blood loss, while blunt impacts tend to crush blood vessals, reducing bleeding (at least when compaired to other types of injuries).
sandskimmer 10-23-05, 11:28 PM	Thanks. But yes, I could see a blunt equivalent of vorpal. Ever hear the phrase "knock your head clean off" ? Also, internal bleeding can be caused by blunt trauma, causing the person to bleed to death internally.
sandskimmer 10-23-05, 11:44 PM	How about "crushing" or "smashing" as a blunt equivalent for vorpal? You wholly crush the creature's skull like a pebble being hit with a sledge hammer. Anyone have a thesaurus handy for something better sounding?
tiercel 10-24-05, 03:01 AM	If you have, or can borrow, a copy of the Arms and Equipment Guide (even though it's technically 3.0, most of it is fine for 3.5), you could check out the bonebreaker hammer, which is sort of like wounding insofar as it gives Dex damage on a crit. While I suppose you could, mechanically, put the vorpal effect onto a bludgeoning weapon, the flavor seems a bit off.... that is, all the problems of vorpal flavor text seem worse for "vorpal bludgeoning." It is a bit ridiculous to imagine a M-sized vorpal longsword decapitating a Colossal sized dragon -- I would argue, if anything, it is even more ridiculous imagining an M-sized "vorpal" warhammer doing the equivalent to a Colossal foe.
sandskimmer 10-27-05, 09:56 PM	Actually, I've always ruled that vorpal will sever an appendage appropriate to the combat situation. So in your examples, the vorpal ability would sever a foot or toe, giving high combat penalties to dex, AC, etc, but not severe the head. Additionally, I have played where vorpal only adds +1 to the weapons crit multiplier. Perhaps "shattering"?