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Boccob's blessed book (TRUELY BLESSED) [Archive] - Wizards Community

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lars
07-11-07, 04:54 AM I cannot seem to find an eratta on this item so please help me understand it or find the eratta. There has to be one!

Dungeon Master guide; page 249.
A wizard can fill the 1.000 pages of a boccob's blessed book with spells without paying the 25 gp per page material cost. This book is never found as randomly generated treassure with spells already inscribed in it.

Moderate transmutaion; CL 7th, Craft Wondrous Item, secret page; Price 12.000 gp; Weight 1lb.

Lets do the math here.

Players handbook; page 179.
Materials and Costs: Materials for writing the spell (bla bla bla) costs 100gp per page.

ex. A level 5 spell will occupy 5 pages and hence cost 500gp to scribe into your book.

So...
Boccob's blessed book will cost you 6000gp to craft if you have Craft wondrous items.
If you did not have that feat it would cost you 100.000gp to fill 1000 pages of spellbook.

I have several Questions:

1) Why does it say "A wizard can fill the 1.000 pages of a boccob's blessed book with spells without paying the 25 gp per page material cost.", when it says in Players handbook that the cost is 100gp.

2) What IS the correct price in materials to scribe any spell into a spellbook?(Not boccobs blessed book)

3) Can it be true that by making a boccobs blessed book you as a mage save 94.000 gold once the book is full? Or as a minimum, you only need to fill 60 pages in Boccobs blessed book to get your gold back in saved materials.

Thank you for reading this - It's becomming a problem in our group since we have two mages of which one does not have a Boccob's blessed book.
Kouk
07-11-07, 06:31 AM Yes, it was an oversight about the 25gp per page described. The SRD lists the correct 100gp price.

I'm not sure about your numbers but the book is designed to save a Wizard money, so of course it would do that.
lars
07-12-07, 09:26 AM Thanks for the reply.

SRD is what ?
(I'm weak with abreviations)

Weird it never had an eratta.
Kouk
07-12-07, 10:00 AM The SRD is the System Reference Document, the rules that are available as open source content for free. You can find it several places, the one most commonly used is this site: http://www.d20srd.org/ and you can download it onto your own computer from somewhere on the Wizards site I think.
lars
07-12-07, 06:40 PM Thank you Kouk,

Quite helpful!

;)
wizzzzzard
07-22-07, 10:18 AM Someone once also mentioned to me that it also helps in that, each spell only takes one page, no matter what level the spell.

Is this so? Has anyone else ever heard/seen this? If so, what book was it in?

Thanks!
Kouk
07-22-07, 01:46 PM Someone once also mentioned to me that it also helps in that, each spell only takes one page, no matter what level the spell.

Is this so? Has anyone else ever heard/seen this? If so, what book was it in?

Thanks!

That would have to be a different item, as neither the current incarnation of the Blessed Book does this, nor did the 3.0 version.
wizzzzzard
07-22-07, 07:04 PM Perhpas then it was an interpretation, then. Or perhaps misinterpreted logic.

"Well, since you don't have to pay the price per page, then each spell must only take 1 page. And you don't pay for that one either."
Fireclave
07-22-07, 07:32 PM Perhpas then it was an interpretation, then. Or perhaps misinterpreted logic.

"Well, since you don't have to pay the price per page, then each spell must only take 1 page. And you don't pay for that one either."
The Geometer PRC (Complete Arcane) has an ability that makes their spells only take up 1 page, reguardless of spell level, which tends to work really well with a Blessed Book.
ServanWolf
07-23-07, 10:21 AM but this thus means that having "bocco's Blessed Book" will give a wizard the possibility to learn as many spells as he wants without cost as long that there is place in the book not?

*even if it means that you still have to buy the scrolls and needs time to do these*

p.s. at your link for SRD bocco's blessed book is called blessed book
DrMorganes
07-23-07, 10:50 AM The SRD is the System Reference Document, the rules that are available as open source content for free. You can find it several places, the one most commonly used is this site: http://www.d20srd.org/ and you can download it onto your own computer from somewhere on the Wizards site I think.

Here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35).

I had to use the site's search feature to lookup "ogl" (Open Game License), and follow a few links to the d20 Home Page.
Fireclave
07-23-07, 11:01 AM but this thus means that having "bocco's Blessed Book" will give a wizard the possibility to learn as many spells as he wants without cost as long that there is place in the book not?

*even if it means that you still have to buy the scrolls and needs time to do these*
Only spells actually written into the Blessed Book are written at no gp cost (aside from the 12,500gp cost for the item itself).

p.s. at your link for SRD bocco's blessed book is called blessed book
It's the same item. The SRD leaves out all product identities and trademarks, including references to Greyhawk gods. But aside from a slight name change, all spells, items, ect still function the same way they do in the core rules.
shift244
07-24-07, 01:57 PM Totally unrelated, but I feel inclined to post this here: Spellbook page use (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0306.html)
Elf-Killer
07-24-07, 04:05 PM 3) Can it be true that by making a boccobs blessed book you as a mage save 94.000 gold once the book is full? Or as a minimum, you only need to fill 60 pages in Boccobs blessed book to get your gold back in saved materials.

Don't forget about the spells the wizard learns for free at every level, in many cases those are the majority of the spells you will ever learn, taking most of the space in the blessed book.
Kouk
07-24-07, 05:32 PM Don't forget about the spells the wizard learns for free at every level, in many cases those are the majority of the spells you will ever learn, taking most of the space in the blessed book.

Ah, but since those don't actually have an inherent cost to them, I would recommend keeping your "old" normal spellbook for those free "level up" spells, so as to not waste the special properties of the Blessed Book.
ServanWolf
07-24-07, 06:48 PM and also dont forget that for the other spells (not counting those of level up) you still have to buy the scroll or pay an other wizard to may copy it from his spellbook :) (= spell level x 50 gp)

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lars 07-11-07, 04:54 AM	I cannot seem to find an eratta on this item so please help me understand it or find the eratta. There has to be one! Dungeon Master guide; page 249. A wizard can fill the 1.000 pages of a boccob's blessed book with spells without paying the 25 gp per page material cost. This book is never found as randomly generated treassure with spells already inscribed in it. Moderate transmutaion; CL 7th, Craft Wondrous Item, secret page; Price 12.000 gp; Weight 1lb. Lets do the math here. Players handbook; page 179. Materials and Costs: Materials for writing the spell (bla bla bla) costs 100gp per page. ex. A level 5 spell will occupy 5 pages and hence cost 500gp to scribe into your book. So... Boccob's blessed book will cost you 6000gp to craft if you have Craft wondrous items. If you did not have that feat it would cost you 100.000gp to fill 1000 pages of spellbook. I have several Questions: 1) Why does it say "A wizard can fill the 1.000 pages of a boccob's blessed book with spells without paying the 25 gp per page material cost.", when it says in Players handbook that the cost is 100gp. 2) What IS the correct price in materials to scribe any spell into a spellbook?(Not boccobs blessed book) 3) Can it be true that by making a boccobs blessed book you as a mage save 94.000 gold once the book is full? Or as a minimum, you only need to fill 60 pages in Boccobs blessed book to get your gold back in saved materials. Thank you for reading this - It's becomming a problem in our group since we have two mages of which one does not have a Boccob's blessed book.
Kouk 07-11-07, 06:31 AM	Yes, it was an oversight about the 25gp per page described. The SRD lists the correct 100gp price. I'm not sure about your numbers but the book is designed to save a Wizard money, so of course it would do that.
lars 07-12-07, 09:26 AM	Thanks for the reply. SRD is what ? (I'm weak with abreviations) Weird it never had an eratta.
Kouk 07-12-07, 10:00 AM	The SRD is the System Reference Document, the rules that are available as open source content for free. You can find it several places, the one most commonly used is this site: http://www.d20srd.org/ and you can download it onto your own computer from somewhere on the Wizards site I think.
lars 07-12-07, 06:40 PM	Thank you Kouk, Quite helpful! ;)
wizzzzzard 07-22-07, 10:18 AM	Someone once also mentioned to me that it also helps in that, each spell only takes one page, no matter what level the spell. Is this so? Has anyone else ever heard/seen this? If so, what book was it in? Thanks!
Kouk 07-22-07, 01:46 PM	Someone once also mentioned to me that it also helps in that, each spell only takes one page, no matter what level the spell. Is this so? Has anyone else ever heard/seen this? If so, what book was it in? Thanks! That would have to be a different item, as neither the current incarnation of the Blessed Book does this, nor did the 3.0 version.
wizzzzzard 07-22-07, 07:04 PM	Perhpas then it was an interpretation, then. Or perhaps misinterpreted logic. "Well, since you don't have to pay the price per page, then each spell must only take 1 page. And you don't pay for that one either."
Fireclave 07-22-07, 07:32 PM	Perhpas then it was an interpretation, then. Or perhaps misinterpreted logic. "Well, since you don't have to pay the price per page, then each spell must only take 1 page. And you don't pay for that one either." The Geometer PRC (Complete Arcane) has an ability that makes their spells only take up 1 page, reguardless of spell level, which tends to work really well with a Blessed Book.
ServanWolf 07-23-07, 10:21 AM	but this thus means that having "bocco's Blessed Book" will give a wizard the possibility to learn as many spells as he wants without cost as long that there is place in the book not? even if it means that you still have to buy the scrolls and needs time to do these p.s. at your link for SRD bocco's blessed book is called blessed book
DrMorganes 07-23-07, 10:50 AM	The SRD is the System Reference Document, the rules that are available as open source content for free. You can find it several places, the one most commonly used is this site: http://www.d20srd.org/ and you can download it onto your own computer from somewhere on the Wizards site I think. Here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35). I had to use the site's search feature to lookup "ogl" (Open Game License), and follow a few links to the d20 Home Page.
Fireclave 07-23-07, 11:01 AM	but this thus means that having "bocco's Blessed Book" will give a wizard the possibility to learn as many spells as he wants without cost as long that there is place in the book not? even if it means that you still have to buy the scrolls and needs time to do these Only spells actually written into the Blessed Book are written at no gp cost (aside from the 12,500gp cost for the item itself). p.s. at your link for SRD bocco's blessed book is called blessed book It's the same item. The SRD leaves out all product identities and trademarks, including references to Greyhawk gods. But aside from a slight name change, all spells, items, ect still function the same way they do in the core rules.
shift244 07-24-07, 01:57 PM	Totally unrelated, but I feel inclined to post this here: Spellbook page use (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0306.html)
Elf-Killer 07-24-07, 04:05 PM	3) Can it be true that by making a boccobs blessed book you as a mage save 94.000 gold once the book is full? Or as a minimum, you only need to fill 60 pages in Boccobs blessed book to get your gold back in saved materials. Don't forget about the spells the wizard learns for free at every level, in many cases those are the majority of the spells you will ever learn, taking most of the space in the blessed book.
Kouk 07-24-07, 05:32 PM	Don't forget about the spells the wizard learns for free at every level, in many cases those are the majority of the spells you will ever learn, taking most of the space in the blessed book. Ah, but since those don't actually have an inherent cost to them, I would recommend keeping your "old" normal spellbook for those free "level up" spells, so as to not waste the special properties of the Blessed Book.
ServanWolf 07-24-07, 06:48 PM	and also dont forget that for the other spells (not counting those of level up) you still have to buy the scroll or pay an other wizard to may copy it from his spellbook :) (= spell level x 50 gp)