Bow of True Arrows and Manyshot [Archive] - Wizards Community

Bow of True Arrows and Manyshot [Archive] - Wizards Community

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fatchuck
09-10-06, 11:43 PM The True Arrows bow enhancement from Sword & Fist p76 cites the True Strike spell for its +20 attack bonus. Questions:

* The spell says it covers your next single attack roll, so it's reasonable to believe this spell could be used with Manyshot (1 attack roll for many arrows at a penalty), but not Greater Manyshot (multiple attack rolls for many arrows at a penalty), right?

* Since this is built as a bow enhancement, would a Rogue wielder just use it as-is, or would he need to make a Use Magic Device check?

Edit:

* The bow in question doesn't list a market +1 or +2 price, just a straight cost of 4,000gp. Does this mean I can add this spell-trigger ability for about 4,000gp, or no?

In rolling up a new PC, I'd like to be careful about reading the rules as I'd like them to be, instead of as they are.

Thanks.
Calestin Kethal
09-11-06, 12:24 AM If you read the text for the bow, it mentions that the True Strike ability is spell completion. So, a rogue would have to Use Magic Device as per the rules for a scroll.
fatchuck
09-11-06, 01:29 AM If you read the text for the bow, it mentions that the True Strike ability is spell completion. So, a rogue would have to Use Magic Device as per the rules for a scroll.

Maybe I missed something?

"This +1 mighty composite longbow (+1 Strength bonus required) stores the true strike spell, which the wielder can activate with a spell trigger (as with a wand)."
Dark1ord
09-11-06, 08:43 AM The spell says it covers your next single attack roll, so it's reasonable to believe this spell could be used with Manyshot (1 attack roll for many arrows at a penalty), but not Greater Manyshot (multiple attack rolls for many arrows at a penalty), right?sounds right. not often you see a higher feat rendered worse than a lower - by equipment, in this case. so just use manyshot instead, I guess. ;)

...I suppose one might argue, "intention-wise" or whatever, that true strike is supposed to govern the entire standard action (the attack - which, in the case of greater manyshot, becomes several attacks, but is still a standard action). but that sounds... dangerous. so I'm not gonna say that. just forget it, ok? :P
SageBahamut
09-11-06, 10:30 AM Because it includes the words "as a wand", I would rule the rogue does, in fact, need to UMD in order to trigger it. Unless he was a freak and took a level of Sorcerer somewhere. :)
risner
09-11-06, 12:23 PM No doubt, you need UMD for that unless you have it on a class spell list.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
fatchuck 09-10-06, 11:43 PM	The True Arrows bow enhancement from Sword & Fist p76 cites the True Strike spell for its +20 attack bonus. Questions: * The spell says it covers your next single attack roll, so it's reasonable to believe this spell could be used with Manyshot (1 attack roll for many arrows at a penalty), but not Greater Manyshot (multiple attack rolls for many arrows at a penalty), right? * Since this is built as a bow enhancement, would a Rogue wielder just use it as-is, or would he need to make a Use Magic Device check? Edit: * The bow in question doesn't list a market +1 or +2 price, just a straight cost of 4,000gp. Does this mean I can add this spell-trigger ability for about 4,000gp, or no? In rolling up a new PC, I'd like to be careful about reading the rules as I'd like them to be, instead of as they are. Thanks.
Calestin Kethal 09-11-06, 12:24 AM	If you read the text for the bow, it mentions that the True Strike ability is spell completion. So, a rogue would have to Use Magic Device as per the rules for a scroll.
fatchuck 09-11-06, 01:29 AM	If you read the text for the bow, it mentions that the True Strike ability is spell completion. So, a rogue would have to Use Magic Device as per the rules for a scroll. Maybe I missed something? "This +1 mighty composite longbow (+1 Strength bonus required) stores the true strike spell, which the wielder can activate with a spell trigger (as with a wand)."
Dark1ord 09-11-06, 08:43 AM	The spell says it covers your next single attack roll, so it's reasonable to believe this spell could be used with Manyshot (1 attack roll for many arrows at a penalty), but not Greater Manyshot (multiple attack rolls for many arrows at a penalty), right?sounds right. not often you see a higher feat rendered worse than a lower - by equipment, in this case. so just use manyshot instead, I guess. ;) ...I suppose one might argue, "intention-wise" or whatever, that true strike is supposed to govern the entire standard action (the attack - which, in the case of greater manyshot, becomes several attacks, but is still a standard action). but that sounds... dangerous. so I'm not gonna say that. just forget it, ok? :P
SageBahamut 09-11-06, 10:30 AM	Because it includes the words "as a wand", I would rule the rogue does, in fact, need to UMD in order to trigger it. Unless he was a freak and took a level of Sorcerer somewhere. :)
risner 09-11-06, 12:23 PM	No doubt, you need UMD for that unless you have it on a class spell list.