Broadsword in 3.5 [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Salahdin

04-12-07, 04:09 PM
How should it be in 3.5 rules?
Fiddlypoppin

04-12-07, 04:14 PM
Honestly? It's a longsword.
FreAkOuTRG

04-12-07, 04:21 PM
Honestly? It's a longsword.

I've heard it's any sword thicker than a rapier, but I'm not a sword expert.
lint trap

04-12-07, 04:22 PM
Honestly? It's a longsword.

Agreed. I've seen it as 2d4 19-20/x2, but Longsword is probably the best bet.
Fiddlypoppin

04-12-07, 04:29 PM
D&D in 3.5 generally treats any sword that is between 2 and 3 feet in blade length, straight, and thicker than a rapier as a longsword. Broad sword is a descriptive term, but there are also several other ways you can describe such a weapon. In previous editions, it was virtually identical to a longsword, but did 2d4 instead of 1d8 damage. In 3.5, they're identical.
Salahdin

04-12-07, 04:35 PM
D&D in 3.5 generally treats any sword that is between 2 and 3 feet in blade length, straight, and thicker than a rapier as a longsword. Broad sword is a descriptive term, but there are also several other ways you can describe such a weapon. In previous editions, it was virtually identical to a longsword, but did 2d4 instead of 1d8 damage. In 3.5, they're identical.

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Watchman

04-12-07, 04:36 PM
Longsword. Bastard sword if it's a particularly big specimen, natch.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/Arnold-AS-Conan-3.jpg
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Keenath

04-12-07, 04:46 PM
"Broadsword" has meant a few different things in a few different periods.

In the 1600s until the 1800s, it was used for any relatively wide-bladed, double edged, basket-hilted weapon -- from a scottish claymore (a greatsword) to an italian schiavona (a longsword).

Later, 'broadsword' became just a general term for any weapon relatively wide blade (compared to a rapier), including sabers, which did not fall under the earlier use of the term (having only one edge).

In this sense, a broadsword is just a term for a cutting blade that's wide compared to the popular rapier, epee, and similar duelling blades of the time.

In any case, it's just a longsword, bastard sword, or greatsword, for game purposes.
gothmaug

04-12-07, 04:47 PM
Depends if your talking real life broadsword or fantasy ala Conan type broadsword
Stormbrand

04-12-07, 04:56 PM
I've heard it's any sword thicker than a rapier, but I'm not a sword expert.

I am a sword expert. You are right.
Shlohloh

04-12-07, 05:28 PM
I have a rhinegaurd broadsword ( not sure on spelling) its just shy of a hand and a half but its fairly heavy. from what i have been told it is ment to be used either by mounted fighters or against them. it is a slow as hell weapon though
antsterr

04-12-07, 08:28 PM
there is the broadblade shortsword from the compete adventurer. it give you +2 dodge bonus AC when fighting defensively.
Masterfulks

04-12-07, 11:34 PM
A lot of people would call a "longsword" to be what dnd calls a greatsword.

It's tough to apply real world weapon names to dnd and be very strict.

I'd just look at them in gaming terms and not worry about it.
pres_man

04-12-07, 11:50 PM
Ah, make a martial sword that does 2d4 20/x3. Forget realism or correct naming or any of that stuff. Have fun.
Johannixx

04-13-07, 12:44 AM
If you want a fantasy, Conan-esque 'broadsword', use either longsword or bastard sword stats.

If you want a basket-hilt broadsword like the later-period Scottish claymores or Italian Schiavonas, use longsword stats and add a basket that provides a +2 bonus to resist disarm attempts. Add 5 gp to the cost, and you're good to go.
T_K

04-13-07, 12:50 AM
If you want a fantasy, Conan-esque 'broadsword', use either longsword or bastard sword stats.

If you want a basket-hilt broadsword like the later-period Scottish claymores or Italian Schiavonas, use longsword stats and add a basket that provides a +2 bonus to resist disarm attempts. Add 5 gp to the cost, and you're good to go.

IMO, the bonus also applies to all Perform checks where you use the sword. :P
Razorgrin

04-14-07, 06:44 PM
... a scottish claymore (a greatsword) ...

Ah, but "claymore" refers to two different weapons. One is the larger, two-handed variety; the other is the basket-hilted version which is generally considered a "broadsword." (For argument's sake, the basket-hilted, single-handed weapon can also be a "backsword" if it's single-edged.)

For what it's worth, the schiavona isn't a strictly Italian design; they appear in a tome describing medieval and Renaissance Scottish weaponry as well.
Razorgrin

04-14-07, 06:47 PM
If you want a basket-hilt broadsword like the later-period Scottish claymores or Italian Schiavonas, use longsword stats and add a basket that provides a +2 bonus to resist disarm attempts. Add 5 gp to the cost, and you're good to go.

I've seen third-party rules that allow you to make an unarmed strike with the basket as though you were wearing a gauntlet. I don't know how useful that really is (I mean, you're already holding a sword!), but it's an interesting bit of flavor.
Watchman

04-14-07, 07:10 PM
For what it's worth, the schiavona isn't a strictly Italian design; they appear in a tome describing medieval and Renaissance Scottish weaponry as well.Wasn't it originally used by mercs from across the Adriatic ?
TheDarkPrince

04-14-07, 07:14 PM
I saw a source like that also, and I guess that the guantlet style damage would be useful in a grapple....