Buckler and bonus to AC [Archive] - Wizards Community

Buckler and bonus to AC [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
AzarPinkur
12-15-05, 06:05 PM Hi everybody!

Reading the buckler description ("if you use a weapon in your off hand, you don’t get the buckler’s AC bonus for the rest of the round.") I asked myself this: the weapon "in my off hand" is considered to be only the off-hand weapon or the bonus to AC still doesn't apply when I wield a two-handed weapon?

So, If I wield a buckler and a greatsword or a buckler and a longsword + Sword short, there is no difference or in one of these cases I can get the +1 AC bonus given by the buckler?

Thank you ^_^
Jack Greylock
12-15-05, 06:08 PM No Difference
masterofmayhem
12-15-05, 07:55 PM The Improved Buckler Defense feat will allow you to use a weapon in your offhand and still gain the buckler's bonus to AC, though (the penalty to attacks still applies).
AzarPinkur
12-16-05, 03:54 AM Thank you! ;)
KmartKommando
12-17-05, 10:02 PM On a similar note, when the buckler description says " can be used with a bow or crossbow with no penalties" do most people interpret that as:

1. you don't get the -1 to attacks with a bow, but can't use the AC bonus
2. you don't get the -1 to attacks with a bow, and the shield's AC bonus still counts

I'm all for number 2, considering that bucklers were designed to be used this way.

My groups always ends up with 3 wizards using mithril bucklers and 2 two-weapon fighters with Improved Buckler Defense, but the guy with the longbow can't protect himself properly, even when outfitted with the correct gear for the job. :rolleyes:
AzarPinkur
12-18-05, 05:49 AM 2. you don't get the -1 to attacks with a bow, and the shield's AC bonus still counts

I'm all for number 2, considering that bucklers were designed to be used this way.
I agree with you :)
Cayl
12-18-05, 02:01 PM Well it says "You can use it" ie get the shield bonus "at no penalty" so you don't take the armor check penalty.

I don't think they could have written it any more clearly for an archer.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
AzarPinkur 12-15-05, 06:05 PM	Hi everybody! Reading the buckler description ("if you use a weapon in your off hand, you don’t get the buckler’s AC bonus for the rest of the round.") I asked myself this: the weapon "in my off hand" is considered to be only the off-hand weapon or the bonus to AC still doesn't apply when I wield a two-handed weapon? So, If I wield a buckler and a greatsword or a buckler and a longsword + Sword short, there is no difference or in one of these cases I can get the +1 AC bonus given by the buckler? Thank you ^_^
Jack Greylock 12-15-05, 06:08 PM	No Difference
masterofmayhem 12-15-05, 07:55 PM	The Improved Buckler Defense feat will allow you to use a weapon in your offhand and still gain the buckler's bonus to AC, though (the penalty to attacks still applies).
AzarPinkur 12-16-05, 03:54 AM	Thank you! ;)
KmartKommando 12-17-05, 10:02 PM	On a similar note, when the buckler description says " can be used with a bow or crossbow with no penalties" do most people interpret that as: 1. you don't get the -1 to attacks with a bow, but can't use the AC bonus 2. you don't get the -1 to attacks with a bow, and the shield's AC bonus still counts I'm all for number 2, considering that bucklers were designed to be used this way. My groups always ends up with 3 wizards using mithril bucklers and 2 two-weapon fighters with Improved Buckler Defense, but the guy with the longbow can't protect himself properly, even when outfitted with the correct gear for the job. :rolleyes:
AzarPinkur 12-18-05, 05:49 AM	2. you don't get the -1 to attacks with a bow, and the shield's AC bonus still counts I'm all for number 2, considering that bucklers were designed to be used this way. I agree with you :)
Cayl 12-18-05, 02:01 PM	Well it says "You can use it" ie get the shield bonus "at no penalty" so you don't take the armor check penalty. I don't think they could have written it any more clearly for an archer.