Bucklers and 2hand weps [Archive] - Wizards Community

Bucklers and 2hand weps [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
G_Mancer
03-12-07, 09:52 PM what effect do bucklers and two-handed weapons have on eachother? does using a two handed wep negate any bonus to ac the bucklet gives?
Drodain
03-12-07, 10:03 PM You get no armor bonus if you've used a 2h weapon unless you take the feat. "Improved buckler defense"?
ClementWillowbreaker
03-12-07, 11:44 PM That is the feat, and it doesn't remove the -1 penalty to attack rolls (which is not armor check). Don't get the feat until you can afford a +1 buckler to compensate for the loss of attack.
Piazza2425
03-13-07, 03:17 PM Just get a mithral buckler and be done with it. No more -1 check penalty. :P
tarkin
03-13-07, 03:23 PM You still need the feat to get both the Buckler AC bonus and the use of the hand to attack.
jaelis
03-13-07, 03:27 PM Just get a mithral buckler and be done with it. No more -1 check penalty. :P

Even a mithral buckler applies a -1 penalty to attack rolls for 2H or off-hand weapons.
StevenO
03-13-07, 08:24 PM Normal THW with Buckler: No AC, -1 attack for using buckler hand, -ACP attack
With Improved Buckler Defense: -1 attack for using buckler hand, -ACP attack

Note that it is very easy to get a Buckler without any ACP.
jaelis
03-13-07, 10:46 PM Normal THW with Buckler: No AC, -1 attack for using buckler hand, -ACP attack
With Improved Buckler Defense: -1 attack for using buckler hand, -ACP attack

You only take the ACP to attacks if you aren't proficient with bucklers, of course.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
G_Mancer 03-12-07, 09:52 PM	what effect do bucklers and two-handed weapons have on eachother? does using a two handed wep negate any bonus to ac the bucklet gives?
Drodain 03-12-07, 10:03 PM	You get no armor bonus if you've used a 2h weapon unless you take the feat. "Improved buckler defense"?
ClementWillowbreaker 03-12-07, 11:44 PM	That is the feat, and it doesn't remove the -1 penalty to attack rolls (which is not armor check). Don't get the feat until you can afford a +1 buckler to compensate for the loss of attack.
Piazza2425 03-13-07, 03:17 PM	Just get a mithral buckler and be done with it. No more -1 check penalty. :P
tarkin 03-13-07, 03:23 PM	You still need the feat to get both the Buckler AC bonus and the use of the hand to attack.
jaelis 03-13-07, 03:27 PM	Just get a mithral buckler and be done with it. No more -1 check penalty. :P Even a mithral buckler applies a -1 penalty to attack rolls for 2H or off-hand weapons.
StevenO 03-13-07, 08:24 PM	Normal THW with Buckler: No AC, -1 attack for using buckler hand, -ACP attack With Improved Buckler Defense: -1 attack for using buckler hand, -ACP attack Note that it is very easy to get a Buckler without any ACP.
jaelis 03-13-07, 10:46 PM	Normal THW with Buckler: No AC, -1 attack for using buckler hand, -ACP attack With Improved Buckler Defense: -1 attack for using buckler hand, -ACP attack You only take the ACP to attacks if you aren't proficient with bucklers, of course.