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Calabozo 03-31-05, 04:54 AM	In the description of the buckler it says that you can use a crossbow without penalty and that if you attack with an offhand weapon you dont get the buckler ac bonus and also take a -1 penalty to the attack roll, but what happends with twohanded weapons and with bows? do I get the ac bonus with them, do I get a penalty to my attacks?
spyderfreek 03-31-05, 05:06 AM	Excellent question, I am have a Greataxe fighter who would love to use a buckler. Also can a wiz cast while wearing a buckler??
Calabozo 03-31-05, 05:26 AM	a wizard can cast with a buckler but he get the spell faliure % of the buckler he also get cthe armor check penalty of the buckler as a penalty to attacks and all skills that involve movement including ride, wich bring us to a loop hole in the rules a masterwork buckler and light shield has no armor check penalty
Bopple 03-31-05, 05:44 AM	You can use a bow or crossbow without penalty while carrying it. What are you reading? And of course, you suffer a penalty to attack roll, when you use weapons, other than those.
Nom 03-31-05, 06:18 AM	In the description of the buckler it says that you can use a crossbow without penalty and that if you attack with an offhand weapon you dont get the buckler ac bonus and also take a -1 penalty to the attack roll, but what happends with twohanded weapons and with bows? do I get the ac bonus with them, do I get a penalty to my attacks?Reread pg 124. It specifically says that if you "use your shield arm to wield a weapon (whether you are using an off-hand weapon or using your off hand to help wield a two-handed weapon)" then you take a -1 penalty on attack rolls. It also states that "in any case, if you use a weapon in your off hand you don't get the buckler's AC bonus for the rest of the round". The one grey area here is whether reloading a crossbow counts as using a weapon in that hand (if you wish, you can shoot most crossbows with one hand, albeit with difficulty); I'd say yes.
pres_man 03-31-05, 06:35 AM	Here's how it works: Two-handed weapon with buckler Attack: take a -1 penalty on all attacks due to buckler Armor Class: you do not get the AC bonus in any round you used your weapon, if you have Improved buckler defense you might get the AC bonus (depending on how your DM rules the feat). Two-weapon/weapon in off-hand fighting with buckler Attack: take a -1 penalty on all attacks by the off-hand (plus normal penalities) due to buckler Armor Class: you do not get the AC bonus in any round you used your off-hand weapon, if you have Improved buckler defense you get the AC bonus. Bows/Crossbows with buckler Attack: take no penalty on all attacks due to buckler Armor Class: you do not get the AC bonus in any round you used your bow/crossbow, if you have Improved buckler defense you might get the AC bonus (depending on how your DM rules the feat).
Codo 03-31-05, 09:00 AM	a wizard can cast with a buckler but he get the spell faliure % of the buckler he also get cthe armor check penalty of the buckler as a penalty to attacks and all skills that involve movement including ride, wich bring us to a loop hole in the rules a masterwork buckler and light shield has no armor check penalty Why is it a loophole? How about this one, Mithril Buckler. Subtract 3 from armor check penalties and 10% from spell failure. Now, in the DM's guide it specifically says that when subtracting form the armor check penalty, that the minimum is 0. So my belief is that a masterwork buckler with an armor check penalty of 0 is not a loophole. If your wizard can afford it, a mithril buckler might be handy. Sure, it's 1,015gp, but remember, no arcane spell failure, no skill check penalties (though you will take a -1 attack with a 2H weapon), it is masterwork, and it can be enchanted! :D